Discussion about: Joomla! Forge is open for business

[stingrey]

Dicuss this topic: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,6345.0.html here...

[tonyskyday]

Looks great! This forge has some nice features.

One question though, is there a secret to what url to use to wget a file with a meaningful filename?

When I used this url on this page, i got a perfectly good file named simply frs1010?dl=1.

Anyway, congratulations to the development team and to the community!

[philmoz]

Question...
is it really a good idea to allow posters of problems to classify level of importance??
Case in point .. http://developer.joomla.org/sf/go/artf1026 which I submitted (and is now being attended too due to my posting in another thread), but I classified it as 'not joomla', only to see it automatically closed....
I would have thought project forge admins would be the ones to set importance classifications....
... alternatively, only to be closed when it is determined not to be joomla, by project forge admins..
just a thought 

[stingrey]

Question...
is it really a good idea to allow posters of problems to classify level of importance??
Case in point .. http://developer.joomla.org/sf/go/artf1026 which I submitted (and is now being attended too due to my posting in another thread), but I classified it as 'not joomla', only to see it automatically closed....
I would have thought project forge admins would be the ones to set importance classifications....
... alternatively, only to be closed when it is determined not to be joomla, by project forge admins..
just a thought 

It wasnt closed, it was changed to Open by me a Project Admin

[myleftfoot]

Nice job. I love that you guys when with subversion instead of CVS.


- lefty..

[philmoz]

Question...
is it really a good idea to allow posters of problems to classify level of importance??
Case in point .. http://developer.joomla.org/sf/go/artf1026 which I submitted (and is now being attended too due to my posting in another thread), but I classified it as 'not joomla', only to see it automatically closed....
I would have thought project forge admins would be the ones to set importance classifications....
... alternatively, only to be closed when it is determined not to be joomla, by project forge admins..
just a thought 

It wasnt closed, it was changed to Open by me a Project Admin

Rey, my point being, not that my posting on forge was going to get lost or not acted upon... but

a) why have I (a non-project member) got the authority/permission to decide the level of importance??
and
b) if an initial importance level is helpful to project admins, why automatically close off  'not joomla' rated items, and consign them to the backblocks of closed items??
(forge automatically closed the submission, and I can only assume it was because of the setting I (a non-project member) had chosen)

BTW forge sent notification of the reopening... much obliged.

[stingrey]

a) why have I (a non-project member) got the authority/permission to decide the level of importance??
and
b) if an initial importance level is helpful to project admins, why automatically close off  'not joomla' rated items, and consign them to the backblocks of closed items??
(forge automatically closed the submission, and I can only assume it was because of the setting I (a non-project member) had chosen)

What you must remember is that Sourcforge is also under development and customability has not had had the priority it necessarily has in a cms project.  For forge issues like reliability and stability are farmore important.

As such, quite a lot of things are hard locked and cannot be modified or adjusted.


of course, they well might be, but we are still attempting to familirize ourselves with the system

[philmoz]

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What you must remember is that Sourcforge is also under development and customability has not had had the priority it necessarily has in a cms project.  For forge issues like reliability and stability are farmore important.

As such, quite a lot of things are hard locked and cannot be modified or adjusted.

of course, they well might be, but we are still attempting to familirize ourselves with the system

understood..

Have fun 

and thx for All the effort to date from yourself and the rest of the team

[stingrey]

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... l#msg47443

[alandd]

VA donated hardware and Sourceforge!?!  Wow!  Thanks to them!

This is a huge endorsement of the Joomla! project and developers.  HUGE!

What a community!

[TheSaint]

Alan,

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/board,152.0.html

The friendly folks from SF have been poking around in our forums. Don't forget to say "hi"!

About the new Forge, I can't wait to get a few projects started.

[typera]

Just curious,

does anyone know what these will include: http://developer.joomla.org/sf/projects/joomla_addons (Joomla! Addons) ?


Cheers,
Max

[TheSaint]

Official Joomla! Addons These are Components/ modules/mambots that will eventually find their way into the core. They are released early as an Addon to allow for early adoption by 3PD&# 039;s and to allow people to implment functionality into Joomla! 1.0

Looks like the project details has some issues with displaying certain charecters (parsing problem?), or perhaps those are typos? As for the actual content, the devs should tell us in due time.

[yerg]

Love the outcome.

All hail to the Joomla / Source Forge teams.

A couple of issues which need addressing

1) Where is the Joomla Menu?  - Main | News | Help | Forums | Developers
  I realise this tool is independent from the others but let's make life easier to navigate through the maze here 

2) It's great to see the support with the listings of so many projects.
  The one issue with the old forge and hopefull not this one is can we somehow get projects that are blank or have no code with a big flag on their listing to say so. Nothing worse than delving into what appears to be some useful stuff only to arrive empty handed. Can the system place such projects in a separate category until they actually have some code. It would also be easier for those seeking to contribute to more easily find things if categorised together.

My 0.02 cents worth to go with a big hip hip hooray

[vavroom]

1) Where is the Joomla Menu?  - Main | News | Help | Forums | Developers

Skinning of the *forge will happen in the next little while.  As a new system, we haven't really had the opportunity to look into it/get the VA guys to look at it with us.  We wanted to get it going first, worry about how it looked later.  I haven't been part of the talks re "skinning" but we'll make it as easy to use/integrate in the rest of the joomla.org series of site as possible

[yerg]

No probs ... can't be told if I don't ask 

[MadeMyDay]

Hi,

I like the new forge, very good work!

What I do miss is the possibility to comment to bugs. Sometimes there are possible bug fixes which I can´t write to the artifact it belongs (example the template issue in #1026, where I had to open #1034 to answer and provide the fix). Perhaps the core member don´t know about this issue because they have a "higher" level of authorization and can comment all artifacts, while a "normal" member can´t.

Greetz Marc

[exrace]

That blind date was worth waiting for! 
The bug tracker is a real nice addition and looks much more organzied then the old forge.

[bluesaze]

hello nice job keep it up ......

[Anacrusis]

I like it, it's much better then the old forge.

And huge THANK YOU  goes out to VA Software for their most generous donation.

[chette]

I noticed Display News is not included in the list of projects. I hope it doesn't mean that it won't work on Joomla 1.0  Already using it quite heavily on my deployments.

[stingrey]

does anyone know what these will include: http://developer.joomla.org/sf/projects/joomla_addons (Joomla! Addons) ?

As stated in the Project Description:

Official Joomla! Addons These are Components/ modules/mambots that will eventually find their way into the core. They are released early as an Addon to allow for early adoption by 3PD&# 039;s and to allow people to implment functionality into Joomla! 1.0

An example on the joomla.org site, you can see that you can syndicate from the News Section of the site and also arreas like the Community News are of the site.

In Joomla! 1.0 you can only syndicated items assigned to the Frontpage component.


The Extended Syndication capability deployed on Joomla.org is an installable Component/Module and Mambots.
This will be built directly into 1.1, but it will be availble for 1.0 users via this project area.
And I will soon make them available

I have one or two other 'official addons' which will be within 1.1 core, but installable fro 1.0

[stingrey]

I noticed Display News is not included in the list of projects. I hope it doesn't mean that it won't work on Joomla 1.0  Already using it quite heavily on my deployments.

It will continue to work on Joomla! 1.0 and I will upgrade it at some stage, when i have spare time (hmmm spare time, whats that??  )

[mrhat]

hello all out there

nice to see the dev of joomla and how this things went over stage.
i just like to tell that there's a little design 'bug' on

http://developer.joomla.org/sf/sfmain/do/home/

the layout doesn't break long text lines, like on the first news.

thanks for the key clicks and the great work! 

PS: I'm interested to work with joomla team... anyone contact?
    dev with long experience and good in databases, fast typing and hunting for obscure bugs  ...

[d3vlabs]

Just one thing. Anyone got the RSS/Atom feed URL for this Forge? I actually tried looking. Can't find it.

[MarkV]

I just wanted to say. GREAT WORK. Your moving realy fast!
New site (OSM), new name (Joomla), new Joomla site, great forum, new logo, and now A NEW FORGE.
I didn't use the old one (just for downloading), but i'm gonne use this one.

We love the dev team ;-)

[LorenzoG]

I don't know if this has been discussed before. I would like also to have a separate point under every project there the project creator can publish screenshots when they are available for his/her/their project. I think that some screenshots tells more than thousands words.

Here an example of a project description:
"Tourism component and module. you can add a place with rooms, images and services."

But it doesn't say so much more a very briefly information.

.. and as times goes, files and documents get published under the forge for this project. But I still have to download the project and install it to my joomla for to see how the module looks. With some screenshots I would be very fast able to determinate if this module is something for me to take a closer look on or not.

[chette]

(hmmm spare time, whats that??  )

It's what you get when your computer breaks down 

Thanks! I'm glad to hear it works on Joomla 1.0. Now one more component to check, MosCE! Argh, I'm getting too dependent on these nice add-ons.

[yerg]

Lorenzo ... I'm with you there.

My test bed is full of stuff that sounded just what I wanted but without a demo or any real description.

Why not have a pdf download with a Full Description, some screenshots of the front end and back end would be enough

May be the Joomla forge could up the anti a bit and "request" that anyone with a project be required to have such ... doesn't need to be as long as War and Peace.

[LeGaS]

Is there an RSS feed on the new forge? Or will it be?