Joomla! 1.5 Beta-2 — The Developers' and Designers' Revolution!

[Jinx]

months are supposed to be capitalised e.g. May and not may 

Can you read and understand it ? If so, it's fine

[ghosty]

Roadmap updated.

Jinx,

shouldnt this:

Maintenance Release Number (1.1.X)

An increment of the maintenance number usually indicates bug fixing within the minor release and possibly small enhancements and limited new features.

also be changed to 1.5.X ??

Cheers

Pete

[fireman]

months are supposed to be capitalised e.g. May and not may 

Can you read and understand it ? If so, it's fine

did the release of beta-2 include a time machine.  it says it was released may 2006.  wow a whole year has passed and I missed it!

must be that pesky time-space continuum bug!! 

[AmyStephen]

...refactor an entire hugely popular, internationally acclaimed, award winning open source CMS, provide backward compatibility *and* embrace a modern MVC application architecture, give it to the world for free as in beer and liberty...and all they notice are the grammar errors on the roadmap page? 

Hang in there, Dev Team! 

[the psion]

Ok, real dumb question:

I'd like to help out with the beta testing, I have a local 'server' that I use to test things before I put them to my actual site so I figured I could help out and start to get the feel for 1.5.  But I don't know how to install this new Joomla, I've looked around, but haven't found any documentation.

I'm sure I'm just missing something very obvious...can someone point me in the right direction please?

Thanks in advance!

[eyezberg]

simple as can be: upload the files to your server, browse  to the directory, and the installer will take care of everything
it will lead you step by step, just make sure to write down the login credentials you enter

[the psion]

Worked fine for me that time, no idea why it didn't when I tried it the first time, but thank you very much!

[Chris Davenport]

months are supposed to be capitalised e.g. May and not may 

Can you read and understand it ? If so, it's fine

did the release of beta-2 include a time machine.  it says it was released may 2006.  wow a whole year has passed and I missed it!

must be that pesky time-space continuum bug!! 

The devs are good, but they're not that good!

Fixed.  Thanks for the heads up.

Regards,
Chris.

[jcracknell]

...refactor an entire hugely popular, internationally acclaimed, award winning open source CMS, provide backward compatibility *and* embrace a modern MVC application architecture, give it to the world for free as in beer and liberty...and all they notice are the grammar errors on the roadmap page? 

Hang in there, Dev Team! 

Trouble is Amy I teach kids (not baby goats before you correct me on my grammar!).  My grammar is bad enough, I live in rural Suffolk!

So you might may (as in could) release something, or it might be a May release :-) 

We could always go Chav Style http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav and go with mobile text language in all documentation :-)

Keep smiling.  It's a bank holiday tomorrow in England.

J.

[AmyStephen]

Trouble is Amy I teach kids (not baby goats before you correct me on my grammar!).  My grammar is bad enough, I live in rural Suffolk!

So you might may (as in could) release something, or it might be a May release :-) 

LOL! How did I miss that? I live in rural Nebraska - middle of the US.

Trouble is, sometimes, we just forget to say "Congratulations and Thanks!", too, and that little bit of encouragement is helpful in a community! (I see you also did that, so, thanks!)

All the best,
Amy

[Amras]

Great work to all    it sure seems like a more stable version now and i just love the new framework

[eyezberg]

I've added a few screenshots comparing various 1.0 screens to the 1.5 equivalent to my blogger blog..
Looks really much cleaner! More to follow.

[Jinx]

Nice work Joe !

[Faeton]

Congatulations to the developer's team on this milestone for the Joomla community! I think Joomla is by far the best environment in the open source community, at least for the site designers like me - not very well educated in programming, but willing to offer their clients a neat site that answers their needs.

So far, the one thing I tried to see concerning the 1.5 takeoff has been the tribute video. And guess what? It refused to play on Safari 2.0.4 (PowerMac G5, OSX 10.4.... Please, test this version overe and over again, to ensure that even the sparse viewers on a Mac can use Joomla!

Jeroen van Heemskerck Duker, Netherlands

[mediamagnate]

Congatulations to the developer's team on this milestone for the Joomla community! I think Joomla is by far the best environment in the open source community, at least for the site designers like me - not very well educated in programming, but willing to offer their clients a neat site that answers their needs.

So far, the one thing I tried to see concerning the 1.5 takeoff has been the tribute video. And guess what? It refused to play on Safari 2.0.4 (PowerMac G5, OSX 10.4.... Please, test this version overe and over again, to ensure that even the sparse viewers on a Mac can use Joomla!

Jeroen van Heemskerck Duker, Netherlands

Hi Jeroen,

I've just checked the video in Safari on a MacBook Pro and G4 PowerBook.  Works fine.  You may need to adjust the pop up window with scroll bars to find the player button.

Hope this helps.  Thanks for the kind comments.

[JoeJoomla]

So far, the one thing I tried to see concerning the 1.5 takeoff has been the tribute video. And guess what? It refused to play on Safari 2.0.4 (PowerMac G5, OSX 10.4.

It played on Safari Version 2.0.4 (419.3) on my Mac OS 10.4.9

...and it was very cool btw! 

[Neo_surya]

Hello

          Great job !!! You guys are really GEEKS.... I dont wanna think of other CMS again..  Keep on making it THE BEST !!

[iainshaw]

I've been playing with it on and off all day.....have to earn a crust as well.

Everything I see is great.  I'm really excited about the templating possibilities - love the tutorial, thanks Compass, I'm shocked (and I shouldn't be) about how bare a vanilla install is.  PLEASE don't take that as a criticism, it's not.  It's just I've not seen a clean install for a long time and there are some things you just take for granted:  XPlorer, DocMan, MGM (it might have dropped out of fashion but it's neat), some of the really cool bots (D'Oh! plugin) .  I'm also aware how dependent I am on the commercial extensions as well.

So I'm going to spend some time honing what I can do with 1.5 ahead of RC1 and I'll keep tabs on what happens with the 3PDs.

All in all, great work guys and gals.  I've even been back in the forums answering noob questions and I've not done that for some time so thanks for firing me back up again.

[am12976]

Excellent Job Team!I'm Having A Little Problem Though.I Use Yahoo Hosting And It Doesn't Allow Me To Upload The Fowllowing File & Folder:

\includes\js\jscalendar-1.0
\libraries\simplepie\compatibility_test\COMPATIBILITY README.txt <<=Not Really Important

I'd Be Thankful If You Could Do Something About It.

[ChiefGoFor]

Excellent Job Team!I'm Having A Little Problem Though.I Use Yahoo Hosting And It Doesn't Allow Me To Upload The Fowllowing File & Folder:

\includes\js\jscalendar-1.0
\libraries\simplepie\compatibility_test\COMPATIBILITY README.txt <<=Not Really Important

I'd Be Thankful If You Could Do Something About It.

Please post your "question" here: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/board,407.0.html

[enjoy777]

That's really great news!!!  Thanks Dev Team for all your hard work and listening of the community.

[jonflgiles]

Good work to everyone involved! I'll be off to get the beta-2 then.

Strange - I regularly check the feed of the dev blog posts but totally missed this piece of news (i'm on the road working) so 5 days later feel a bit silly to have missed something I have been looking out for almost every day for some time now. Simple answer? Joomla! Main feed now added to toolbar... doh! Must say a short blog post in the dev blog might help similarly dopey people like me sit up and take note.

Better get testing.

Jon.

[halabit]

Hi to all ,

Good work to everyone involved ! Joomla rules 

I have some question .

Couple weeks ago I started building very big ( hardware/software ) site using 1.0.12v ( I will building him about 3-6 months) .

And now I am in dilema .

What to do , to swich to 1.5 Beta2 , and start building a new site and then when stable version is release simply to update to 1.5 stable , or to stick with 1.0.12 .

Because I will use some bridges to connect joomla+smf+coppermine and I am worried that when I update to 1.5 stable it will not work , or there will be some problems .

Also is there some unofficial date to release Joomla 1.5 , for example june or october 2007 ?

Or to install 1.5Beta2 without coppermine and SMF , and start building , and when 1.5 stable is out to do that integrations.

Also , is there going to be "Legacy 1.0" in Joomla 1.5 stable ?

[iainshaw]

There will be no date.  It will be out when it's ready.

I think it may be too early to abandon 1.0.x but I would certainly look at 1.5 beta 2and understand what it is going to give you / your client.  and also what it might  mean for your design.  Also the more eyeballs looking at Red Barchetta, the more bugs we'll find quicker.

Maybe you should target the release of RC1 to start any serious design and integration

[drewhiggins]

Nice job. Can't wait to test it out.

[c0rinne]

Does anyone have any idea what the degree of convertibility from 1.012 to 1.5 (final) will be. Meaning, how difficult will it be for the average novice to convert, say their layout, to 1.5?

Because, from what I've read, it doesn't look like the prospects are good for me.

[pvh123]

Does anyone have any idea what the degree of convertibility from 1.012 to 1.5 (final) will be. Meaning, how difficult will it be for the average novice to convert, say their layout, to 1.5?

Because, from what I've read, it doesn't look like the prospects are good for me.

Well, there will be a migrating component to help you.

[RobInk]

Does anyone have any idea what the degree of convertibility from 1.012 to 1.5 (final) will be. Meaning, how difficult will it be for the average novice to convert, say their layout, to 1.5?

Like Pieter mentions, there will be a migrator component. However, this will only migrate core content such as articles, weblinks, polls etc. As for 3rd party extension data, and the template you mention, you will have to migrate this yourself. Templates should not be too much trouble, for 3rd party extensions you depend on there developers.

[3wP]

Quote from: cord on May 05, 2007, 09:45:13 AM
I mean: Will the contents created in Joomla Beta-2 be usable and unaltered after updating to 1.5 stable?
I'm not talking about third-party-components, it's just about sections, categories and content articles!

Yes, you can. With the release of beta 2 we have frozen the API's and database scheme. For 3P developers this means that now is the time to start working on their new extensions or make their existing extensions compatible. People that want to develop websites can already start their development process (designing template, putting content in, ....), just at least wait until we released a first release candidate before putting the site in a production environment.

Hmmm, i'm not to shure about this part. Cause with the current bug with the Legacy mode, you will have to delete all your main installation if you are to upgrade with a download from the nightly builds. And YOU will have to download the update from the nightly builds after the legacy error is fixed. Any testing with current components that needs the lagacy mode enabled (and that is almost all major comp's like forum, joomla explorer etc) is useless as it actually create errors in other parts that will sooner or later make it impossible to test in the long run. Links are kinda important to a site and right now all links are messed up with legacy mode published. And you cant "upgrade" a beta as i have understood it from the nightly builds,, you have to reinstall the whole core pack.

So in my opinnion it is useless to ad any content to any "test/get ready site" using the download of the current beta, you will soner or later get into so huge problems that you will have to upload a new beta 2 from the nightly builds after the legacy system is fixed..

I might have gotten everything wrong,, but this is how i feel things are after doing some basic testing and evaluating of what to do with my current test site. I would love it if i was totaly wrong, and it actually was possible to fix my current test site with an upgrade of the current beta to a functionable beta with the legacy in working state. I could even fix the code in the files my self if i knew what i had to replace of code in order to get the legacy to work.

BUT,, i think you all are doing a great job here at joomla and i really look forward to this new joomla wich i have waited for so long.

Keep up the good work, but please fix the legacy system and announce when it is fixed so that we REALLY can start testing the beta2

[mikaelfs]

Yes, you can. With the release of beta 2 we have frozen the API's and database scheme. For 3P developers this means that now is the time to start working on their new extensions or make their existing extensions compatible. People that want to develop websites can already start their development process (designing template, putting content in, ....), just at least wait until we released a first release candidate before putting the site in a production environment.

great to hear this statement.
congratulations to the dev team. i'll be looking forward for the stable release.

i'll now go have a look at 1.5 beta and check its features and compatibility issues.

thanks again.