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Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:27 am
by bluesaze
I think you did a great job its the perfect logo....... I prefer glossy logos .... (maybe you can add some gloss to it) . Yep it will nice if you can post some color variations here before people start catching up to that office logo similarity.
bluesaze wrote:I don't think there is cause to panic ............. All that needs to be changed are the colors Once the colors are changed nobody will notice that. Everthing else is fine. Its the perfect logo because it very professional looking and has a deep meaning behind it. Wow Jbird Missed the vote by 2%
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:30 am
by santapec
urquharttownson wrote:Okay...I guess it is time for me to respond. To start off, as for the coincidence of the logo being too similar to the Microsoft office logo...that was done unknowingly and unintentionally. I've have never payed attention to the Microsoft Office logo partly due to the fact that I work on a Mac and not a PC. Do I have Microsoft Office for the Mac? Yes I do, but the logo for the Mac version is different than the PC version.
I will explain the simple reason why it is similar. The way the colors lay out follow the color wheel model. Look below:
Microsoft uses the same idea behind their logo.
At this time I am in the process of making modifications to the logo, as requested by the development team. Do they involve change in the colors. As of this time not yet. I have chosen though to develop different color schemes for the logo because of the concern of the similarity. I will present these color combinations to the development team and the final decision will be theirs.
On another note, I would like to thank everyone who voted for and supported my logo. I never expected to be the one on top. It really came as a shock to me...heck...making the top 5 came as a shock. I think many of us, I being one of them, thought that a certain other logo would fly it's way to the top. I feel it's just as deserving as mine and I think the numbers show it with the race being so close.
Once again...thank you.
Thank you my friend.
But to be honest, I though yours was going to win since the first time I saw it. Great concept!
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:32 am
by Aristocrat
You have done a wonderful job for the logo thank you. I think the idea of similarity is nothing but pure coincidence. Logo reminds the viewer to Microsoft logo because:
1. 4 entities come together
2. colors are the same
other than those Joomla logo is completely different with Microsoft Office logo.
I know logo design is a pretty challenging concept in Graphic Design and branding. I personally salute all of those who master in this field.
Rastin
urquharttownson wrote:Okay...I guess it is time for me to respond. To start off, as for the coincidence of the logo being too similar to the Microsoft office logo...that was done unknowingly and unintentionally. I've have never payed attention to the Microsoft Office logo partly due to the fact that I work on a Mac and not a PC. Do I have Microsoft Office for the Mac? Yes I do, but the logo for the Mac version is different than the PC version. ........
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:40 am
by urquharttownson
bluesaze wrote:I think you did a great job its the perfect logo....... I prefer glossy logos .... (maybe you can add some gloss to it) . Yep it will nice if you can post some color variations here before people start catching up to that office logo similarity.
bluesaze wrote:I don't think there is cause to panic ............. All that needs to be changed are the colors Once the colors are changed nobody will notice that. Everthing else is fine. Its the perfect logo because it very professional looking and has a deep meaning behind it. Wow Jbird Missed the vote by 2%
Bluesaze,
As of this time I would prefer not to post color combinations until the development teams has had a chance to look at them. I will let them decide whether to post color combinations or not. This in no way means that the community can't post suggestions as to color schemes.
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:44 am
by dabodude
Well, congratulations, I did vote for your logo too!! I particularly liked the glossy one...
And about the colors, I don't think that's a big problem, we should just ask Microsoft to change their colors
Congratulations Again!
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:44 am
by urquharttownson
Just a note. One of the color combinations still uses the same colors but switches the position of two of the colors to break away from the color wheel model. It still resembles microsoft with the colors but not the pattern.
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:46 am
by urquharttownson
dabodude wrote:Well, congratulations, I did vote for your logo too!! I particularly liked the glossy one...
And about the colors, I don't think that's a big problem, we should just ask Microsoft to change their colors
Congratulations Again!
I think thats the best suggestion made in this forum so far...
. I'm a Mac guy so I don't really care for microsoft anyway.
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:49 am
by SineMacula
Congrats Alan! Your logo was in my personal top 5 of all the pre-vote submissions (as was another of the finalists), and it got my vote.
I work solely on Macs, so the MSO logo issue didn't even occur to me... and now that the Windows version of Office logo has been pointed out, it still doesn't particularly bother me (despite the fact that I'm the typical Mac fanatic in terms of my feelings towards micro$oft). I'm sure you and the dev team will come up with something quite acceptable!
Good work!
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:51 am
by TomT
Congrats Alan! I'm very happy with this result, like I wrote in the voting thread: this was the only logo expressing the idea behind Joomla!
As a designer and design afficionado I know that coincidence does exist. There are so many logo's around, it's impossible to create one that doesn't remind people of other designs. As an Open Office user I haven't seen Microsoft Office in ages, so I don't mind a color resemblance
.
What's more important to me is: would I wear it on a t-shirt, and yes, I hope they will be available at LinuxWorld London
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Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:52 am
by santapec
Good bye!
I'm off to seek fame and fortune elsewhere...
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:00 am
by bluesaze
santapec wrote:Good bye!
I'm off to seek fame and fortune elsewhere...
he he love yer new avatar
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:04 am
by Hils
Great work Alan
It was between jbird and this one for me. Jbird lost out on icon clarity and visual meaning for this project. Color - imagine how much research/design money Microsoft spent coming up with that color combination? There is nothing wrong with putting folk in a 'color comfort zone' even if it is only subliminal. We are already in the Joomla house, this logo will be for the future.
JBird is absolutely brilliant and surely will find its own niche on the web somewhere.
Hils
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:05 am
by leolam
santapec wrote:Good bye!
I'm off to seek fame and fortune elsewhere...
try here:::
http://www.miro.com.au/ 
don't take it too serious.. The Bird was fantastic. if I would have seen the mentioned similarity I would have voted the bird....
The pic is just to relax things.............
smile people!
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:05 am
by TheSaint
bluesaze wrote:santapec wrote:Good bye!
I'm off to seek fame and fortune elsewhere...
he he love yer new avatar
Did someone run over the bird?! What on earth?
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:10 am
by tomh_cz
TheSaint wrote:Jbird didn't win?!!?!? Wow, I'm truly shocked. None the less, Joomla 1 is also an excellent logo and should work quite well for our purposes. Congrats Alan on a job well done!
Same as me!
I thought is absolutely clear that JBird will win...:-)
But new logo was my second choice, I like it and congrats to it!
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:22 am
by CTPAHHuK
Very Bad choice....I'm shocked....
Combination of MS Office logo + swastik....
My favorite is JBird !!
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:25 am
by leolam
CTPAHHuK wrote:Combination of MS Office logo + Fascist swastik....
Sorry but ain't you going over the very edge here??? Fascist swastik..........this is nuts and a huge insult to the maker of this logo and to this community. THIS is unacceptable!
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:31 am
by CTPAHHuK
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:33 am
by bluesaze
CTPAHHuK wrote:Very Bad choice....I'm shocked....
Combination of MS Office logo + Fascist swastik....
My favorite is JBird !!
thats a rather stong statement ...... I cant see any Fascist swastik....
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:36 am
by bluesaze
I saw that and there is no similarity that you speak of . I think you have a bad imagination.....
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:37 am
by CTPAHHuK
maybe not Fascist, but similar to swastik.... (just IMHO)
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:37 am
by bluesaze
I saw that and there is no similarity that you speak of . I think you have a bad imagination.(just my opinion no offence lets not start a flame war)
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:38 am
by leolam
I do not see what you are trying to prove here. It is simple an insult to compare this logo with a Nazi Swastik and than on top of that posting a link to a Russian site presenting that crap to prove this??? I do not believe this. Any idea how many people you are hurting with this?
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:44 am
by mondspeer
Hello Alan,
congratulations on the winner.
It wasn't my first choice of logo, as I'd like to see something more "emotional". But nevertheless, it looks good and transports message which is obviously quite important to many of us.
I wouldn't care about colors, though. There are more companies using the same color scheme, just because of the color circle. So don't mind this. Microsoft has lots of copyrights, but surely not on green orange red & blue.
Just my opinion.
And on the topic of the "swastika": As I'm a german and we've been thorougly trained to avoid anything close to the swastika, I consider myself to be quite sensible to this thing. But the thought never crossed my mind with our new logo. So just skip this swastika thing. Forget it.
Again: Congratulations.
Mondspeer
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:45 am
by bluesaze
hey leo i suggest you leave it. He just has an overimginative mind. No need to start flaming him. (i.e if he doesnt stick to his guns)
leolam wrote:I do not see what you are trying to prove here. It is simple an insult to compare this logo with a Nazi Swastik and than on top of that posting a link to a Russian site presenting that crap to prove this??? I do not believe this. Any idea how many people you are hurting with this?
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:54 am
by leolam
bluesaze wrote:hey leo i suggest you leave it. He just has an overimginative mind. No need to start flaming him. (i.e if he doesnt stick to his guns)
leolam wrote:I do not see what you are trying to prove here. It is simple an insult to compare this logo with a Nazi Swastik and than on top of that posting a link to a Russian site presenting that crap to prove this??? I do not believe this. Any idea how many people you are hurting with this?
I never flame...........I leave it....I just removed it out of my emotional system....tnx
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:56 am
by urquharttownson
CTPAHHuK wrote:Very Bad choice....I'm shocked....
Combination of MS Office logo + Fascist swastik....
My favorite is JBird !!
CTPAHHuK can think of the logo any way he pleases. Personally I don't see it. Obviously he's been doing extensive research on the subject. Maybe he would like to read more about the other meanings a swastik had for different cultures long before the Nazi's used it. Here's a little history lesson on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastica
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:57 am
by bluesaze
LOL for a second that guy shocked me . :o ;D
:laugh:
. Guess diffrent people have diffrent imagination.
leolam wrote:I never flame...........I leave it....I just removed it out of my emotional system....tnx
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:59 am
by TomT
bluesaze wrote:No need to start flaming him.
This is not flaming. I think leolam did the right thing by pointing out that this kind of foul talk should not be posted in a community forum like this.
Re: Discussion : Logo Winner Annoucement
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:02 am
by bluesaze
I know about that one of guys created a swastica like symbol and people were upset. so I explained a bit of history myself
http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... l#msg35286As for the flaming part i was just asking leo to handle it in a cool way...... Anyway I dont think we will be seeing that
other guy CTPAHHuK around.
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