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Re: New slogan

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:31 pm
by illeo74
SineMacula wrote:
illeo74 wrote:the hearth of joomla! is the community, so what do you think about this slogan: Joomla! Ccms (Community Content Management System). This community is great (logo competition is an example) so i think we have to exalt this project's side.


The heart behind the development of Joomla! is certainly the community, but an awful lot of sites built with Joomla/Mambo are not community sites at all - I myself have built 7 or 8 sites with it, and none of them is "community" based. I think that when considering a slogan, we need to think about how it's being used more than how it's being developed - since a lot of people who consider using it may not really care that much about the community behind it (at least not at first).


sorry, i don't explain very well how i have in my head (because my english is very down). my slogan don't explain kind of sites but the origin of project: if you choose joomla! for your site(s) you must know joomla! force (the community). i hope you understand me

Re: New slogan

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:48 pm
by Chris
bedlam wrote:
Chris wrote:
farimi wrote:joomla! an opensource CMS.


Who needs a slogan.

Looking at Google for

mambo+cms = 2,300,000

In the short period of the life of Joomla:

joomla+cms = 1,130,000

I call that 'going strong' for a 'the better choice'




from a user's point of view who wants to search for a good cms and doesnt know the name joomla, try searching for just "cms" or "content manangement system" .... see how joomla ranks from the rest ;)


That was not to search for a CMS but to eliminate the beachwear, dances etc associated with the name Mambo.
This gave only the numbers for a cms called Joomla and/or Mambo

Re: New slogan

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:50 pm
by SineMacula
illeo74 wrote:
SineMacula wrote:
illeo74 wrote:the hearth of joomla! is the community, so what do you think about this slogan: Joomla! Ccms (Community Content Management System). This community is great (logo competition is an example) so i think we have to exalt this project's side.


The heart behind the development of Joomla! is certainly the community, but an awful lot of sites built with Joomla/Mambo are not community sites at all - I myself have built 7 or 8 sites with it, and none of them is "community" based. I think that when considering a slogan, we need to think about how it's being used more than how it's being developed - since a lot of people who consider using it may not really care that much about the community behind it (at least not at first).


sorry, i don't explain very well how i have in my head (because my english is very down). my slogan don't explain kind of sites but the origin of project: if you choose joomla! for your site(s) you must know joomla! force (the community). i hope you understand me


I think I do understand you... I just happen to disagree  :D

My personal opinion (and it is only an opinion) is that it makes more sense to have a slogan that presents prospective users (and the press) something about what it is, or how it's used, or how it makes their life easier/better/etc., or how they'll feel when using it.

A slogan should somehow play up the benefits of Joomla and/or tell what it actually is either directly (e.g. "Joomla! Content management made easy") or semi-directly (e.g. "Joomla! Set your sites on it") or indirectly (e.g. "Joomla! It's just easier this way").

The fact that there is a strong, creative, wonderful community here supporting Joomla and the talented folks that develop it, and third party additions, is very important to us, but to people who are first coming to Joomla, looking for a CMS, it may not be important at all (especially if they're in the early stages of learning about the whole Open Source thing and the importance of these communities - as I was when I first discovered Mambo). For those that choose Joomla, many will discover the community, and its strength, diversity, and creativity after they start using it, if they don't do so during the exploration phase.

So, to summarize (sorry, I get long-winded near the end of my day... well, actually, time of day doesn't really matter  ;) ) -- it is my opinion that using the slogan to promote or express the fact that there is a strong community behind Joomla is not the best approach. But it's not up to me, so who knows?!?  ;D  I'll be happy to support whatever is decided!

Re: New slogan

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:26 am
by trostlos
Think "lifestyle", "way of life". Now look at my suggestions:

Joomla! - Your way of site
Joomla! - A way of sites
Joomla! - The way of sites
Joomla! - Retaining your sitestyle

Don't know all too many lifestyle expressions in english, but my point is to get the idea out there, not the actual slogans I wrote.

Since we all are geeks I say:
Joomla! - All your CMS are belong to us!
:)

Re: New slogan

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:06 am
by bedlam
Joomla! - All your CMS are belong to us!

LOL  :laugh:

kidding aside .... i think the slogan  should be:

Joomla! - cutting edge content management system :)

Re: New slogan

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:14 pm
by robbievk
trostlos wrote:Since we all are geeks I say:
Joomla! - All your CMS are belong to us!


l33t is c00l

would be nice if the name stayed open source too, and doesn't sound to commercial, originality is the keyword imo, originality can be funny and the other way around... imo...

Re: New slogan

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:15 pm
by Hoppity
Empowering the browser

Power the browser

or how about something simple

Joomla - making it easy


(cos if I can use it, then anyone can!)

Re: New slogan

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:27 pm
by Sorian
Joomla! Content. Managed. Simple.

Re: New slogan

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:35 pm
by Hoppity
Sorian wrote:Joomla! Content. Managed. Simple.


Sorian - I like that!

Re: New slogan

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:59 pm
by fireman
joomla! free and easy

Re: New slogan

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:07 pm
by illeo74
Joomla! "THE" cms

Re: New slogan

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:29 am
by MyJC
Joomla! Click here.

Re: New slogan

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:38 am
by davidva
Joomla!
Hello World

Re: New slogan

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:40 am
by TheSaint
Any word on when we'll actually choose one of these suggestions?

Re: New slogan

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:15 am
by tdc
Miro Miro, on the Wall

no - seriously, I vote for "Power in Simplicity"

Re: New slogan

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:00 am
by Manoxtra
*** Joomla! Inside ***

Keep up the good work!

Joomla - The Power of Many

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:32 am
by Andrew Smith
How about ....

Joomla! - the fork your spaghetti needs
    (spaghetti being information, etc)

    ;D

Actually, I've got to admit that the slogan "all together now" does have a lot of appeal to me.  However, for positioning the product to be taken seriously in the business / IT setting, I'd like to suggest the following:

Joomla - the power of many

Why?  Well, it's short ... as a slogan needs to be.  It's not cheesy either. 

"the power of many" also instantly conveys a good mental image of both (a) the nature of community involvement and (b) the extendability of the software through third party modules/components/mambots etc.

It does catch a bit of a ride off "the power of one" (book/movie) concept, but doesn't depend on it to successfully communicate.  Indeed Joomla! isn't about what one has done, but what many can accomplish.  Hence there is even more power in "many".

Lastly, both the words used and the concept they convey (on the literal level) are simple and should mean that the slogan translates easily.  Much better than a complex or humour/cheesy slogan would.

Andrew Smith
Brisbane, Australia.

Re: New slogan

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:29 am
by lummie
Joomla! because you can.   

^^ says it all, you want it, you can do it.  Puts the emphasis on the user, joomla just helps you do what ever you want with your site.


With CMS :

Joomla! Community Maintenance Support

Joomla! Communities Must-be Supported

Thoughts ?

Re: New slogan

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:53 pm
by chess
ok, i havent read all 17 pages, but so dont be surprised if i say something stupid

i think a good one would be:
Joomla! Open Source Matters

what is opensourcematters being used for right now? if it is nothing more than nothing, we might as well use it as joomla's slogan

Re: Joomla - The Power of Many

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:22 pm
by Anacrusis
Andrew Smith wrote:Joomla - the power of many


I like that one, it describes Joomla! perfectly.

Re: New slogan

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:21 pm
by newart
We have to wait for the new logo... Only then, I think, we can choose the right slogan  8)

Re: New slogan

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:56 am
by Hoppity
Joomla!  Open for business

Re: New slogan

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:26 pm
by farimi
Anacrusis wrote:
Andrew Smith wrote:Joomla - the power of many


I like that one, it describes Joomla! perfectly.


what about

1. "Joomla - Choice of Freedom"
2. "Joomla - People's choice"

Hmm.. i just wonder, i saw " Joomla! 1.0 - 'Experience the Freedom'! " after i install joomla 1.0..

hmmm has the slogan been decided?

Re: New slogan

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:02 pm
by newart
farimi wrote:
Hmm.. i just wonder, i saw " Joomla! 1.0 - 'Experience the Freedom'! " after i install joomla 1.0..

hmmm has the slogan been decided?



why not, I like it  ;)  :D :D :D and how about a... random slogan component?  ;D There are too many good slogans here... we are sinking literally!

Here's my new contribute:

Joomla! Free & Fast

Re: New slogan

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:33 pm
by Stroker
Joomla! Always Open

Joomla! We're Always Open

Re: New slogan

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:41 pm
by MarkV
newart wrote:
farimi wrote:
Hmm.. i just wonder, i saw " Joomla! 1.0 - 'Experience the Freedom'! " after i install joomla 1.0..

hmmm has the slogan been decided?



why not, I like it  ;)  :D :D :D and how about a... random slogan component?  ;D There are too many good slogans here... we are sinking literally!

Here's my new contribute:

Joomla! Free & Fast


Haha. I like the idear of a random slogan generator. I like the 'Experience the Freedom' slogan too.
'Free & not that fast but very good' would be better for Joomla  :P. I spent yeasterday working in the administrator pannel and its not that fast  :).

Re: New slogan

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:54 pm
by X-Dimension
mamboart wrote:
Joomla! - Power your website!



YEAAHHH! I love it!  :-*

XD

Re: New slogan

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:19 pm
by allmagica
My slogan suggestions:


- Joomla; Light Years Ahead..

- Joomla; At The Speed Of Light...

- Dont Jumble; Choose Joomla

- Joomla; Modern Webdesign

- Joomla; Mastermind...




From the slogans suggested so far I like mostly:
Control Your Web
The CSM Experience
Collective Intelligence
Infinite Possibilities




I m so astonished about people using the words OPEN SOURCE in the slogan!  :o When I hear open source my mind relates to hundreds of software which have an open code. I dont think it should be used to define a csm since it describes a whole lot more softwares. Anything related to "all together" is also not of my taste. I like to work alone without people around my head :P, nor do I like to be forced to be part of a community (even if I respect a lot what it going on in here). Isnt it selfunderstood that there should be no link between mambo and joomla? These projects are likely to develope differently. I am looking forward to seeing great functional differences in the future. These are just my thoughts, I know you cant satisfy everyone, but at least a neutral and serious slogan should be easier to digest than emotional ones.

Re: New slogan

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:27 am
by windowsguy
starise wrote:Joomla - The most dynamic open source portal of the web. Open your mind.

or

Joomla - The most dynamic CMS of the web. Open source, open mind.



How about,
Joomla - Open source, Open mind, Open to all possibilities!

Re: New slogan

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:32 am
by windowsguy
How about,

Joomla - ReInvent!

Joomla - Beyond Expectation!

Joomla - Expand Your Mind...