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I dont use IE very much but have IE 7 installed and today went here to the Joomla website and noticed that the templates are totaly screwed up when using internet explorer 7.  They seem to be fine with IE6

Maybe you already know about this but just thought I might post on the off chance you dont.

Thanks

I am not astonished. IE7... hmmm...

We are aware of the issue, however as IE 7 is still under development there is little value in trying to fix issues that could well be bugs that will be addressed when IE7 goes stable

Well it seems to work fine in every other browser (FF, Konqueror, Mozilla Suite, IE6), so I'd say it's a problem with IE7 not with Joomla!

I agree with this. IE7 is microsoft's problem, not ours. After 4 upgrades Apple's Safari browser was able to render CSS okay, so maybe one day Microsoft gets it right too.....

I have an issue that's similar.  Whenever I open our website of http://www.columbusroad.org/main in Firefox, everything is just fine.  When I open it in IE, the red x's appear in the upper left of the header and the lower part of the footer.  Am I missing anything?

sonar732 wrote:I have an issue that's similar.  Whenever I open our website of http://www.columbusroad.org/main in Firefox, everything is just fine.  When I open it in IE, the red x's appear in the upper left of the header and the lower part of the footer.  Am I missing anything?

I dont see nay red cross's in IE7 but im either guessing youve linked ot an image in your CSS which doesnt exist so it displays an image not found image.

You may also want to read this:

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,88778.0.html

sonar732 wrote:I have an issue that's similar.  Whenever I open our website of http://www.columbusroad.org/main in Firefox, everything is just fine.  When I open it in IE, the red x's appear in the upper left of the header and the lower part of the footer.  Am I missing anything?

Yeah. Thamks to BG.

Everytime I and up with making 2 stylesheets. One for IE and one for the rest of the world. It's very annoying and time consuming. And you can't invoice that to your client.

I'm really scared what will happen if IE7 really hits the market. Is that the reason BG leaves in 2008?

I think we will make a lot of overtime that the clients are not willing to pay.

I figured it out.  The template code was messed up.  The folder's first letter was lowercase, but the template code was uppercase.

is anyone experiencing really slow browsing with IE7?

I have FireFox and IE7 on my laptop and while FF flys online, IE7 is SSSOOObSSSLLLOOOWWW...

Nope must be something to do with the way you configured IE, or maybe you "just dont have the Power"(processor and RAM) IE 7 is a lot more hungrier than other web browsers.

considering 95% of people use IE... im sitting here looking at joomla sites on vista/ie7 and none of them display properly. fwiw, ie7 started rolling out on the auto-updates so end users will be using it now.

course now that i think about it, joomla.org seems to still look good. so you guys must be doing something more right than a lot of other people with your CSS.

I know Andy wasn't too much amused when he changed the joomla.org templates to make it proper for IE7.

well kudos to him for getting through it. im only looking at my sites thinking WTF!?! am i going to do about this?!?!!!!!

maybe there needs to be a IE7/CSS primer

i know CSS was made for site layout/design flexability but man, are they not holding together on the most popular browser [microsofts fault or not, blaming doesnt do much for developers/designers when the end user doesnt care]... but luckily all my [old-school] static html sites still hold together nicely [with CSS used for text style, not layout].

i have a site i have to get done now and now and kind of scared to check it.... i was planning on redesigning it a bit from where it was but just checked it and it held together, so not all is lost. maybe now i wont change its design.

Check out this link which has info regarding the changes to IE7 and CSS: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/0 ... aspx  - Microsoft IE Blog

Also you can find some interesting blog posts, comments etc when you do a search on Google and check out any of the links out there.
http://www.google.com/search?q=IE+css+changes

procreate wrote:i know CSS was made for site layout/design flexability but man, are they not holding together on the most popular browser [microsofts fault or not, blaming doesnt do much for developers/designers when the end user doesnt care]... but luckily all my [old-school] static html sites still hold together nicely [with CSS used for text style, not layout].

Thanks to Microsofts lousy programmers a big part of existing websites will not display correctly in IE7. You're right that blaming anyone doesn't solve the problem, but one should not forget that this is not a Joomla problem but an IE7 problem. I expect that the next months designers will get a lot of calls from their clients.

Personnaly I haven't been abl eto check any of my sites, since IE7 doesn't run on Windows2000....

honestly, the majority of sites display just fine in IE7... its the majority of joomla sites in IE7 that dont display properly. even the CSSzengarden holds together. im not saying its joomla's fault here, nor am i saying its microsofts. microsoft always had their "own way" of doing things.... for better or worse, but im kinda digging vista right now way more than OSX. and when my joomla sites got hacked, i didnt go saying how lousy the joomla programmers are.

and i guess it might be nice a few more billable hours will be picked up to fix the CSS on sites... after all, it was working before. thanks for the links jenny, i hope i can put this all off for as long as possible. im waiting until the clients notice i think. not very proactive i know.

Ive just noticed that with IE7 it does not display text in the JCe editor, however, this is fine in firefox.

Nice, IE7 is freshly out and already start to give problems.
IE 6 were on the road for 5 years, it "almost" complies with CSS 2 but not with CSS 2.1. For this whole 5 years designers struggle to make their pages looking good on good and W3C compliant browsers, such as FireFox, Opera or Safari and in the unfortunally most used IE 6.
IE 7 seams to comply now with CSS 2.1 and PNG alpha channel transparencies (WOW! Finally my images will quit to have a weird green background), but CSS 3 is on the way, FireFox already supports some of the CSS 3 features, and IE 7 will be alike to be around more 5 years (or even more if Linux finally takes over Windows meanwhile) therefore designers will have to look after new hacks for display CSS 3-like design for IE 7 users.

I'm concerning about start a movement over the internet in order to boycot IE users and force them to change, something "soft" like:



Just a thought...

no one would go to the site then. its like saying, im going to be a PITA for the people im trying to attract to my site. here is a pole, sit on it. i dunno... dont think its good for business. if i had to take my pick, i would make it look good for IE and not bother with the other browsers... alienate 5% instead of 95%. but you gotta make it work on all of them unfortunately.

i noticed drupal doesnt display properly either...

anyway, i have a new site to build but i really want to wait for 1.5..... 

A bit of good news then, from the old time 95% IE, now my site's stats are:

IE 6: 75 %
IE 7: 1,65%
Firefox (rough span all over the versions): 15%
Opera (all versions): less than 1%

maybe there's hope, FireFox is growing, slowly but growing... 

you would like my stats more then...
IE 47.8%
FF 26%
Safari 17.5%
all else...

course my site isnt joomla and works well for all browsers i have tested, but i dont rely on CSS for it either.... im lazy that way.

course other sites i host arent those kind of numbers... more like yous, 77%/14%/et al

Most of my sites are having one problem or another in IE7, while Firefox seems to ignore these problems.  I had a black header in two different templates for several days until I realized IE7 has problems with png images, so I changed the image to jpg and the problem was solved.  During my frantic search for answers, I did find that most of the Joomla templates produce many errors (20-30) when run through W3C CSS Validator.