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by man_of_mr_e
Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:10 am
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

In principle i agree with you completely... in fact, if more people thought this way in the USA (for example) a lot of unpopular, yet powerful political action groups would be nullified by popular opinion.  Example, how do you beat the NRA's control of congress with respect to gun control laws? Eve...
by man_of_mr_e
Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:58 am
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

Part of that may be related to the fact Miro wants to maintain IP over Mambo. It wasn't a very convincing OSS-based argument that Peter Lamont put forward that the Foundation get itself a perpetual GPL licence for Mambo. In fact, it seemed contradictory - Miro wants to get out of the pilot seat for...
by man_of_mr_e
Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:48 am
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

Peter. again I have to disagree. Your confidence that there are 40,000 real live people is great, but can you prove it?  You can't hold a legally binding vote if you can't even prove who the members, or if they're real or not.  That's how elections are rigged. Again, given the fact that there was ne...
by man_of_mr_e
Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:11 am
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

But not in the structure that it was announced. Therein the difference. But, and this is key, that's not the way it's being presented.  Numerous times i've seen it written, such as this article over at ars technica m , that: During the 2005 San Francisco LinuxWorld Expo, the CEO of Miro announ...
by man_of_mr_e
Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:16 am
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

As I said, I believe that the core devs have a legitimate complaint that the foundation didn't include them as board members, or the MSC.  However, my issue is the way this whole thing has been portrayed.  Making big deals about "nobody was consulted" yet the fine print says that core devs...
by man_of_mr_e
Fri Aug 19, 2005 3:32 am
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

Peter, Thanks for your comments.  I disagree with you that an internet forum can legally be considered an "association" with "members".  Apart from the fact that there is no way to identify whether that's 40,000 individual people or 1 person with 40,000 email addresses, there's also no way...
by man_of_mr_e
Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:53 am
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

The constructive and enlightening parts of my posts were simple.  A lot of fuss was made about things that Miro did, then as soon as the core devs "split off" they start doing THE EXACT SAME THINGS.  This leads any critical thinker to consider WHY.  The obvious reason is that there ar...
by man_of_mr_e
Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:57 am
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

Allright.  This has gone too far.  I made comments earlier that i thought were constructive, and enlightening about the behavior of the core devs here, and how they were acting like Miro.  Now, i've been accused by a core dev (i assume, he presents himself as one anyways) of being a member of the Ma...
by man_of_mr_e
Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:41 pm
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

I guess my point is that the core dev team is now doing the very things they (and others) accused Miro of doing.  Namely, secretly carrying out actions.  Great, you've been advised not to comment, but don't you think Miro was advised about that as well? How exactly does one put their trust in someon...
by man_of_mr_e
Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:26 pm
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

Intersting.  I find it ironic that with all the demands for transparency, even the core dev team has decided to become opaque. Like i said, I'm sure there were good reasons for what you've done.  And I realize that i'm not privy to everything that's happened.  But honestly, the formation of a founda...
by man_of_mr_e
Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:08 pm
Forum: Announcements Discussions
Topic: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion
Replies: 530
Views: 204806

Re: Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community - Discussion

While I'm certain the core devs had good reasons for what they have done, I think most everyone else here is over reacting.  Here's why: Foundations are legal entities, and because of this, you have to have formal methods of voting by the membership.  When you form a foundation, there are ...