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projects could need (security) anouncements infrastructure in the forge

Post by seneca » Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:28 pm

Hi,

IMHO it' a pitty/pita to have to monitor forums to pick up on updates.
Subscribing to notifications for an anouncement forum still always requires to manualy log-in and mark any messages as read.

Can't the forge software provide anouncement mailinglists to registered projects?

This way staying up to date could be as simple as the subscription to the joomla main project's announcement mailinglists  and the lists of modules one uses.
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Re: projects need (security) anouncements infrastructure in the forge

Post by brad » Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:25 am

You can subscribe to the announcement forum and elect to receive the content of the announcement in the email. Then, if you don't want to, you don't need to login at all.

Manually login: If you don't login to browse the forums, then the new post indicators will not be correct for you anyway. But all it takes is for you to login and press the 'mark all forums read' button.
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Re: projects need (security) anouncements infrastructure in the forge

Post by seneca » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:01 pm

Hello Brad,

thanks for your reply, the "mark all as read" button is very handy thank you for pointing it out to me.

As I undestand it, though, I don't get further forum notifications before I login and read the anouncements.

Would you have any concerns about mailinglists? The anouncement forum is certenly fine for regular boarders and joomla-main for the moment. The situtation could be made quite perfect with an information distribution infrastructure also available for component projects, though. The sourceforge software might even already support mailinglists. (?)
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Re: projects could need (security) anouncements infrastructure in the forge

Post by brad » Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:52 pm

As I undestand it, though, I don't get further forum notifications before I login and read the anouncements.


That is not correct. You will receive notification each time a new thread is posted. However you will not receive replies to thread you are subscribed to unless you login.

Mailing lists are yet another medium that would require administration and moderation as well as duplication of announcements. So for the moment we have chosen to use forums.

I am not sure about the finer details of the forge though, perhaps one of the 'forge' guys can update you on that.
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Post by seneca » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:31 pm

OK, if I would get notification for every new topic regardless if I had loged in that would be nice.

The only difference to a plain email notification list would be that the actual message is not contained in the email instead has to be looked up in the web as an additional step. (Could be just a forum setting)

The notifications I got said however:
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  A new topic, 'Joomla! 1.0.6 Security out now!', has been made on a board you are watching.

  You can see it at
  http://forum.joomla.org/index.php?topic=30532.new#new

  More topics may be posted, but you won't receive more email notifications until you return to the board and read some of them.
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Which seems to imply the chore to visti the Boards.

Thanks for the hint to the forge's monitorig functionality. Using that infrastructure might be the best solution. From other posts it looks like an administrator would have to tune some settings first, though.

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Post by brad » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:42 pm

Goto your profile> Notification options> And enble the sending of posts in emails.

Hope that helps.
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Re: projects could need (security) anouncements infrastructure in the forge

Post by seneca » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:13 pm

So current situation leaves two things remaining:

1) "More [notification] topics may be posted, but you won't receive more email notifications until you return to the board and read some of them."

2) There is no user notification infrastructure for subprojects.

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Brad, thank you for helping me with hints to get as much out of the currents situation as possible. Very nice. I'd wish someone aquainted with the forge software could give his view of the situation, too.


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