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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by eyezberg » Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:53 pm

Will there be a patch soon to fix all confirmed bugs in 1.0.8?
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by Tonie » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:10 pm

Here is a comment by Rey on that question earlier.
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by focalguy » Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:50 am

Yea, there seems to be a few concrete issues that could be fixed and posted. Has any community member put together a version of 1.0.8 with the corrected files? That's what I plan to do before updating all my sites, but I haven't had the time/willpower yet.
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by eyezberg » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:06 am

Well, in my understanding, a patch wouldn't be a release, just an overwriter of impacted files..
I wouldn't want to use 1.0.8 as it is if I have to check our various posts for different fixes, and then edit the files by hand.. I mean, *I* could, others maybe wouldn't know how to, or might misedit files, thus causing other problems, and I really don't see why it is a big deal to zip up correct versions of relevant files as a "upload once, fix all" patch..
Not much use someone else doing this, as it needs to be an official file.
A quick scan of the related forum shows at least 7 confirmed bugs, some of them real showstoppers, so imho, it'd be better to make a patch available.
If someone downloads 1.0.8 now and starts using J!, it wouldn't look so good to have to hunt around for those fixes. Make it easy for he users..
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by pages » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:13 am

I agree with eyezberg

I would like to use 1.0.8 but am not sure...so i feel a lot of users would be worried about what to do

In my mind right now...i know there is some info in the quality and testing forum, there is another link as welll where other issues have been moved to and i just came across another thread titled 'things to look out for in 1.0.8'....

There should at least be only one place to go to be made aware of know problems that is up to date (a simple bullet list with maybe links to solutions) even if a 'patch' is not made available. And it must be official. Maybe this is available, just not aware of it.

PS Many thanks for all this incredible work and I am confident you will per usual end up providing the solutions  ;)

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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by Beat » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:38 am

Just a few ideas to share:

- It looks like we are taking the same pattern as some other successfull software projects, in our case, even-number-ending releases are lots of fixes, introducing a few other problems, and then odd-number-ending releases come shortly thereafter to only fix the most ennoying "show-stopper" issues found right after release in the even releases.

- We might also think of setting up a larger "pre-Stable" testing group. Our statistics in CB test-team show that with 70 persons in our test-team, about 20 really have time to test it within a week, and only about 5-6 within a day, as free-time can't be scheduled ;).

- and also give the final release to that group only for a day so that major problems get squashed.

- in the last rounds before 1.0.8 came, I've reviewed on my own the changes in source-code mainly in one file (joomla.php) in regard to the new frontend-sessions-management and gave feedbacks to core team. We try to practice with JoomlaJoe cross-source-code reviews (in terms of Q&A and Security review) for Community Builder since RC1 (we do svn diff before svn update ;)), and I also practice this within my company. It always paid-off, each review gives invaluable feedbacks in both ways and usually finds bugs. 4 eyes are way more than 2*2 as JoomlaJoe always says.... Drawback is reaction time... slower release schedules... :D

Don't get me wrong, 1.0.8 (1.0.8) :-* as someone wrote)  is the largest changes release since 1.0.0, and the core team has done a fabulous 8) 8) 8) job with so little small bugs left over after so many major fixes. :):):):):)
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by focalguy » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:10 pm

eyezberg wrote:Well, in my understanding, a patch wouldn't be a release, just an overwriter of impacted files..
I wouldn't want to use 1.0.8 as it is if I have to check our various posts for different fixes, and then edit the files by hand.... Make it easy for he users..

Exactly what I agree with. I know it would have to be an official file but even if another user did post the fixed files I could do a diff and see that those were the only changes and that it worked. Aside from that, having the official "fixed" files seems almost too easy. Am I missing something?
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by Geas » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:10 pm

Beat wrote:Don't get me wrong, 1.0.8 (1.0.Cool Kiss as someone wrote)  is the largest changes release since 1.0.0, and the core team has done a fabulous Cool Cool Cool job with so little small bugs left over after so many major fixes. SmileySmileySmileySmileySmiley


I agree.

We need to work as a community and try to find/fix the minor bugs or troubles we may find. The core team is working hard to provide us FREE something really amazing.

Thanks guys.
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Post by Hobes » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:30 pm

I have a problem I didn't have with 1.0.7:
When using character from Slovene language, it doesn't save the text after the first of such character (such as š or č).

Any idea how to correct this?

If not, could someone tell me how to go back to 1.0.7?

Thank you.

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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by malibu » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:36 pm

pages wrote:
There should at least be only one place to go to be made aware of know problems that is up to date (a simple bullet list with maybe links to solutions) even if a 'patch' is not made available. And it must be official. Maybe this is available, just not aware of it.


Tonie does a good job of this here >>> http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,41447.0.html
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by focalguy » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:23 pm

malibu wrote:Tonie does a good job of this here >>> http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,41447.0.html
Thanks for the link - I guess I missed that one.
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by damo » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:58 am

since installing 1.0.8 i've noticed i now have to refresh after apage loads to get all the modules to show. specifically the whos online one ...

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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by exrace » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:48 pm

Has then been any further talk on a roll-up patch for all these issues?
I haven't upgraded due to all the little problems discovered... :(
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by Tonie » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:19 pm

The quote by Stingrey still stands:
Any future release in the 1.0.x codebase will be 1.0.9

However, it is unlikely that such a release will be released for another 2 weeks - we keep stability releases to a 2->4 week schedule.


A lot of problems have already been fixed in SVN, so a lot if work is already being done.
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by BryanF » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:12 pm

Hi all

I upgraded from 1.0.7 to 1.0.8 last night

Once upgraded, my frontpage went blank - no articles showing at all.

There were no error messages, just the 'no items to show' as if there were nothing published to the frontpage.

I checked any content items and they all seemed ok. As there was no error message I am a bit stumped as to why that might occur. Template incompatibility? Module positioning?

I have reverted back to 1.0.7 to wait for the next stable release in hopes that the same thing does not happen. I am just an amateur website manager for my local community so did not want to mess around with anything myself that may cause more problems.

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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by digitalhome » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:19 pm

I think I'll wait for 1.0.9 because my site is working well and I'm afraid to mess anything up.

Having said that,

I would just like to say thanks to all the joomla team for all their hard work. You folks have put together an amazing piece of software that too often I take for granted. Yeah, there's issues, but in software development, you can't avoid them so best to follow good practices (back up your files, database and TEST before going live!)

Keep up the good work!

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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by toubkal » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:28 pm

Well I have to say that I have been happy to upgrade two of my sites to 1.0.8

Although I had to fix 1 niggle with the login module, the new version is much improved and has fixed a lot more than it has broken.

Key bonuses for me:
  • Links in site syndication feeds now work
  • Session handling improvements to allow users such as those with AOL to login and access the site. Although I have not tested this feature yet, this has been a big issue for me in the past.

Thanks to the Dev Team

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Re : Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by hornos » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:17 pm

Thanks to the dev team... BUT

What's the point of maintaining such a release schedule !? We're talking about stability releases right!? With less bugs than the previous ones right? But look at what happened with 1.0.6 and now with 1.0.8! Some bugs fixed but new ones introduced  ???

Why not focusing only on critical security and show-stopper issues ? Then we would have only maintenance Release "if needed", until next "Minor Release" (Joomla! 1.1)...

Personnaly, I'm a bit tired of upgrading my sites every 1,5 month  :-\ Also, many users are still running older versions because they won't  "take the risk"... It does not make sense  ???

Less releases and more stability please  :'(
http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... 95892.html

Again, many many thanx for your time and dedication ;)

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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by Hackwar » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:53 am

This release WAS one of those necessary updates, cause it solved a security issue where you could view unpublished data. This is a security problem for a lot of users and therefore this release was made. Again, there were less new bugs in this release than that have been fixed by it.
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by snap » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:53 am

Hi!

First of all thanks for all the work you guys are doing for Joomla!I've updated to 1.08,everything is ok except my bookmarks component,There were thumbnails of the various links with 1.07,and now they are gone ???Anyone know a quick fix????
  And I've just tried to logout and log back in and i get page not found :'(
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by dhuelsmann » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:38 pm

snap wrote:Hi!

First of all thanks for all the work you guys are doing for Joomla!I've updated to 1.08,everything is ok except my bookmarks component,There were thumbnails of the various links with 1.07,and now they are gone ???Anyone know a quick fix????
  And I've just tried to logout and log back in and i get page not found :'(


Looks like this is not a problem with Joomla 1.0.8 but a problem with Alexa. Please check here for updated information by DJesus.

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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by getthebackout » Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:16 am

Hi All,

Just thought you may like to know, after doing a new install of 1.0.8 my news feeds would not work. After replacing them with the 1.0.7 newsfeeds.html.php and newsfeeds.php they are now working...not sure if this would alter anything else but everything else appears ok.

Apologies as I haven't had time to verify the changes in the files.

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Re: 1.0.8 Release Announcement - Corrections

Post by conum » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:56 pm

I'm still on 1.0.7 after I read that there are so many bugs in this version:
http://forge.joomla.org/sf/frs/do/viewR ... nArtifacts
Now the most of them are fixed. Is it possible to get the fixed files into the 1.0.7 to 1.0.8 update?

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Re: 1.0.8 Release Announcement - Corrections

Post by stingrey » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:22 pm

conum wrote:Now the most of them are fixed. Is it possible to get the fixed files into the 1.0.7 to 1.0.8 update?

This is not how we operate.
1.0.8 is 1.0.8

Any fixes, etc will be released as 1.0.9:
http://dev.joomla.org/component/option, ... d,33/p,62/
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by mczn » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:39 pm

gaz36f wrote:2) On the other site I have the '0' problem identified above. One thing I have noticed here is the URL, after login, changes to http://www.[domain]/http://www.[domain]/


I don"t know which '0' pb is identified (probably moved elsewhere according to messages) but i think i get one.
When i log in i get the strange greeting : hello, 0 instead of hello, mczn (or what else could be my account).

Whould be pleased to understand what is around (annoying for members but not a fatal bug)

Thanks anyway for the great job done whith joomla.

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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by Tonie » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:28 am

For the 0 issue, please take a look here.
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by mczn » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:41 pm

What a quick answer ! Thanks, it's certainly about a 1.0.8 login module pb.

But i didn't see anything about my bug in that thread :
  • i don't have a redirection pb
  • i don't use IIS
the only effect is a login module showing hello 0, instead of hello "member_name".

Thanks anyway for the intention to help.


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Re: 1.0.8 Release Announcement - Corrections

Post by conum » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:30 am

stingrey wrote:Any fixes, etc will be released as 1.0.9:
http://dev.joomla.org/component/option, ... d,33/p,62/


I think, you don't understand.
Joomla 1.0.8 is nearly useless. Read the list of bugs at http://forge.joomla.org/sf/frs/do/viewR ... nArtifacts
so you understand.
I stay on 1.0.7 as long, as login, rsss etc. is fixed

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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by mczn » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:14 pm

Thanks to point me the right place. I didn't find any case of this bug.
This bug report is the same as the one i wanted to explain.
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Re: Discussion about: Joomla! 1.0.8 Released

Post by Tonie » Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:10 pm

@conum. You can also see that there are only four open bugs that were reported in the 1.0.8 period. A lot of these have already taken care of in SVN, so you should try out 1.0.9 once that is released.
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