Is joomla extension website allowed to advertize products that banning IP's ???

Post by **joomlaturk** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:39 pm

please read thıs thread in joomla.org forums.

http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,78497.0.html

products that banning IP's should not be lısted in joomla.org's extensions website.
facileforms is advertizing their product in joomla extensions website.
But facileforms is banning all the IP's in TURKEY.All the innocent people ın Turkey can not download the product.

please help me with this matter.
moderator Brad is being unreosonible and do not see our point. decision is not up to brad but should be a joomla.org policy.

I am representıng 27.000 joomla support forum users in Turkey. I am the forum admin and my 27.000 joomla users pay attention what I say.
ıf this ıssue ıs not solved, 27.000 joomla users wıll be protesting joomla.org and JOOMLA

in the mean time, I'd sent an e mail to http://www.opensourcematters.org. about this issue.
and I will try to do my best to notify every organization till I get a result.

DOWNLOADS İN EXTENSİON WEB SİTE SHOULD BE AVAİLABLE TO EVERY JOOMLA USERS...
We would like joomla.org manegment team to hear our voice and
don't be a part of any discrimination that punishing innocent joomla users

eXFuture · Post by **eXFuture** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:35 am

companies that blockıng any countrıes IP, SHOULD NOT BE LISTED IN EXTENSİONS WEBSITE
He is not offering his product to all the joomla users.

he mıght ban IPs for hıs web sıte..... that's his choise.
but he can not advertıse his product ın extensions websıte and BAN IPs ın the same tıme

onurtahmaz · Post by **onurtahmaz** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:58 am

Tarik bana zorla yazdiriyon haberin ola.

If Banning turks action increase we will stroke out and In turkey Joomla Lovers numbers are getting higher. But they can`t use facileforms component beacause of this.

We want u to stop banning turks.

Tarik ben yazarsam sinirlenirim birakalim bunlari. ondan bu kadar benden.

malatya44 · Post by **malatya44** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:00 am

companies that blockıng any countrıes IP, SHOULD NOT BE LISTED IN EXTENSİONS WEBSITE
He is not offering his product to all the joomla users.

he mıght ban IPs for hıs web sıte..... that's his choise.
but he can not advertıse his product ın extensions websıte and BAN IPs ın the same tıme

Post by **igeoffi** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:07 am

^^wow
lots of emoticons
anyways

products that banning IP's should not be lısted in joomla.org's extensions website.

discrimination.....against people who want to make their site more secure....

im sure people would be more than happy to give you a copy of the extension if you asked

i would

But facileforms is banning all the IP's in TURKEY

facileforms is facileforms
Joomla! cannot force facileforms to stop blocking IP ranges

but he can not advertıse his product ın extensions websıte and BAN IPs ın the same tıme

Brad said:

We do not have a policy of removing websites from the extensions directory if they are blocking IP's.

so yea....
thats all im gonna say so that i dont get tangled up in this mess

Main point: if you need a copy of the extension, ask and ill send you it

brad · Post by **brad** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:19 am

Mod note: none-english posts removed.

Guys, have you contacted Facileforms about this... get your 27000 users to protest there. Why don't you ask Facileforms to come up with a solution?

As a Joomla! Core Team member: http://www.joomla.org/content/view/30/ I am speaking for joomla.org Your protest is noted, but please do not threaten us, or try to force the issue. Our Extension site editors are already doing a great job. We are unpaid volunteers and this is an issue outside of our control.

brad · Post by **brad** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:21 am

Final warning, if this issue is not dropped publicly on these forums, we will use the rules of this forum to ban users who are just here to try to stir up trouble.

PLEASE talk to Facileforms, they are the people banning you not us.

jooomlatorun · Post by **jooomlatorun** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:18 am

Companies that blockİng any countries IP's,
SHOULD NOT BE LISTED IN EXTENSİONS WEBSITE..
facileforms is not offering their open source product to all joomla users..

He might ban IPs for his own web sıte.
that's understandible and his right...
DOWNLOADS İN EXTENSİON WEB SİTE SHOULD BE AVAİLABLE TO ALL JOOMLA USERS
We would like joomla.org manegment team to hear our voice,
and don't be a part of any discrimination. >:( >:( >:(

brad · Post by **brad** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:22 am

Please contact Facileforms or your ISP. Joomla! is not discriminating, we list all sites in the extensions directory according to the rules: http://extensions.joomla.org/content/view/12/36/

sevdiyar · Post by **sevdiyar** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:32 am

Companies that blockİng any countries IP's,
SHOULD NOT BE LISTED IN EXTENSİONS WEBSITE..
facileforms is not offering their open source product to all joomla users..

He might ban IPs for his own web sıte.
that's understandible and his right...
DOWNLOADS İN EXTENSİON WEB SİTE SHOULD BE AVAİLABLE TO ALL JOOMLA USERS
We would like joomla.org manegment team to hear our voice,
and don't be a part of any discrimination.

brad · Post by **brad** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:35 am

Ok, well, everytime someone repeats this post, we will be deleting it.. this is pointless and time-wasting.

sevdiyar wrote:Companies that blockİng any countries IP's,
SHOULD NOT BE LISTED IN EXTENSİONS WEBSITE..
facileforms is not offering their open source product to all joomla users..

He might ban IPs for his own web sıte.
that's understandible and his right...
DOWNLOADS İN EXTENSİON WEB SİTE SHOULD BE AVAİLABLE TO ALL JOOMLA USERS
We would like joomla.org manegment team to hear our voice,
and don't be a part of any discrimination.

Post by **joomlaturk** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:19 am

brad wrote:Please contact Facileforms or your ISP. Joomla! is not discriminating, we list all sites in the extensions directory according to the rules: http://extensions.joomla.org/content/view/12/36/

I dıd check your rules. your rules says

Extension home and demo sites links must be to the site that is most relevant to the extension, links must not result in redirection to an alternative URL.

when I clıck to facileforms link, I get banned message..
so ıf we go by your rules, you must provıde me wıth a working lınk.,

Frankly Brad, I don't give a damn about facileforms ban.
But I do not want thıs useless idea spread to other extensions.

Your index finger vary close to DELETE key.
you mıght delete posts very easy, but you can't delete people's ideas ın their mınd.
joomla ıs belong to joomla users.. not to you.

by the way now I can connect to facıleforms sıte. ban ıs removed..

thanks to sensıtıve and honest joomla management team (excluding Brad.)

brad · Post by **brad** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:32 am

Incredible.. I (along with others) spend time on this issue and all you do is get upset further with me...

Nice to see that Peter was happy to help you and your users out on this issue. Now please just be nice and try to avoid the threats etc.

Post by **Tonie** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:49 am

We have deleted the ip ranges a while ago. Like Brad said earlier, banning ip ranges is not something we are promoting. It should only be done in the case of emergencies. Brad's actions are the same as I would have done them. You are turning this into one big political statement. Seeing wrongdoing in every comma, point or whatever details furthers your own opinion. You had a disagreement with a 3PD developer, not with us. The good thing about a community project like Joomla is that we don't and shouldn't have to deal with politics or other matters which carry emotional luggage. In this way, your actions are only trying to divide and break the community.

uSLaNMaZ · Post by **uSLaNMaZ** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:23 pm

I AM SORRY

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