Discuss : Joomla! 1.5 Beta Release Date Announced

[Sergey Romanov]

but one thing do not give me relax. I worry as developer. I have few components developed and some of them commercial. That means that now I should completely ceparate projects for Mambo and Joomla as differense very significant.

[Beat]

but one thing do not give me relax. I worry as developer. I have few components developed and some of them commercial. That means that now I should completely ceparate projects for Mambo and Joomla as differense very significant.

Actually, Joomla! 1.5 supports the Joomla! 1.0 API as well, with a "legacy support" parameter which can be switched off or on in the main site configuration. This allows components which comply with Joomla! 1.0 API to also run on Joomla! 1.5. There are very few adaptations needed if you are not using the API exactly, or rely on being executing in the global variables scope. But if your component works with RG_EMULATION OFF, chances are good that your existing component will continue to run in Joomla! 1.5, as well as on Mambo without adaptation, or with extremely slight adaptations. E.g. Community Builder 1.0.x runs from Mambo 4.5.0, through 4.5.1, 4.5.2, 4.5.3, 4.5.4 and hopefully 4.6 as well as Joomla! 1.0 and will also run on Joomla! 1.5. So if you want to stay (long way) backwards and sideways compatible, you can, for now.

Obviously if you want to use the new Joomla! 1.5 API, your component will not run on anything older or different than that. But that's another story...

[sysop]

I have always says from the beginning time, from the birth of joomla, Joomla! is the future! That's no fantasy, wishes for all Joomla! team.

http://www.joomla.org/content/view/2017/74/ <---- Simple anxious

[gchriste]

Hi guys (girls?)  Well done on the annoucement and pending release of the new baby.

One quick question though... will the beta to beta/RC releases be supported by any upgrade mechanism?  If I install the first beta to start changing over my sight (though not going live) will the next beta contain a migration, or will they be throw away?

Just helps to know up front

[kosson]

OK, ok, ok ! Hold your horses ! Let this guys bring it on.
Oh, mama ! I'll chew and I'll eat all the goodies...

So, congrats dev team, Q teeam, Translator teams and all these beautifull girls and boys crafting this jewell.

Alas, welcome be thy end of jouney as it starts a new road !

[funmaking]

Thx to Core Team!!! A very exciting news!

[Sergey Romanov]

Obviously if you want to use the new Joomla! 1.5 API, your component will not run on anything older or different than that. But that's another story...

ANother story is what I am talking about. It is not smart not to use Joomla 1.5 API. If not why it is done. But it is not smart to use it either because after that your component works only on J 1.5.

The only hope that the migration to J1.5 will be quick.

[Beat]

Obviously if you want to use the new Joomla! 1.5 API, your component will not run on anything older or different than that. But that's another story...

ANother story is what I am talking about. It is not smart not to use Joomla 1.5 API. If not why it is done. But it is not smart to use it either because after that your component works only on J 1.5.

The only hope that the migration to J1.5 will be quick.

That's one of the smart freedom of choices that Joomla! 1.5 gives into your control.

I could even dream other web-applications API compatibility layers added later, as 1.5 seems to lay out the foundation to this kind of beasts, giving developers and admins even more possibilities. 

[Sergey Romanov]

I could even dream other web-applications API compatibility layers added later, as 1.5 seems to lay out the foundation to this kind of beasts, giving developers and admins even more possibilities. 

Totally agree. I am as a developer just dream of thosnad of new features in Joomla. And I am so glad of new API and think it quite flexible and supportive. Now I spend even less time for development.

I just sad of growing difference bitween Joom and Mambo.

[Waseem Sadiq]

Congratulations to Johan, Louis and the rest of the 1.5 development team.

Thanks to your supreme efforts and super-human coding ability we the Joomla community continue to benefit from the most scalable, user friendly open source CMS available.

Thanks again guys

Haaris

[Jinx]

By the way, are the statistics shown at http://www.ohloh.net/opensource/software/joomla
accurate ? If not what we can keep from them ?
I's a bit weird, but according to the graphics , rhuk would have  done a code contribution of more
than 80%. I guess it is wrong ...

At first glance this seems a bit strange indeed, but the reasons Andy(Rhuk) is the highest ranked code contributor is because he moved all the code into the svn when we started the Joomla! project a year ago. The stats do tell the truth, u just need to read them right

[rhuk]

it's a bit off topic but i think my stats for code contribution are high because I did the intial svn imports and have done several moves/copies/tags etc, and each of these actions on each file counts as a commit.

Well the announced release date is a good news.
However, I hope  the current Joomla 1.5 is already in  an advanced state.
I mean I don't want "a fake beta", that is in fact a true alpha (very unstable)
Anyway, I'll download a "nightly build" and take a look....

By the way, are the statistics shown at http://www.ohloh.net/opensource/software/joomla
accurate ? If not what we can keep from them ?
I's a bit weird, but according to the graphics , rhuk would have  done a code contribution of more
than 80%. I guess it is wrong ...

[leolam]

Wow, it has been some kind of a pregnancy but glad to see it come alive on 12th of October in a ceasarian   

As Brian said...it is the beginning! Can we please emphasize a little more on the fact that

1. It is BETA and  that a beta should not be used on a live site

2. There will be no easy upgrade from Joomla 1.0.x to Joomla 1.5 despite the availability of a migration tool? (which is not similar to upgrade!) I suggest you make a special migration announcement on this topic otherwise the catastophy will  be  so huge one cannot imagine! Pointing to the specific forum is insufficient is my experience....Strong advise!

Good job gals and guys! You all got my respect!

Leo 

[Daniel Tulp]

looking forward to test it, hope it lives up to my expectations

by the way, that Ohloh site is very informative, have you checked out the difference between joomla and mamb*? Statistics are pritty much the same, untill you scroll to the bottom for activity 

[bradfordhill]

[me=Slixter]marks that day down in his calendar as "Busy all Day"  [/me]

I couldn't agree more!  My boss actually heard about it before I did, and he's how I found out...there's been a desire for LDAP implementation as well as accessibility for a while over here, but 1.0.1x has had to do the trick (and will continue to do so until I've had time to play with/work out 1.5).  HUZZAH!

[brian]

yes we must ensure that the message is that 1.5 is for testing only can't be stressed enough.
the same is true for

Joomla 1.5 ... not an upgrade but a new beginning

[newart]

I'm very happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That date will be a milestone date! 1.5 is the very first Joomla version... I'm very excited. Now I can delete all from my test site, waiting to download the 1.5 J! - I think that in the born date the download traffic will be very high!!!!!!

[brian]

yes I wonder what the traffic will be like on the 12th. I hope VA are warned!

[joomlaturk]

excellent news.
if you are impatient and want to try joomla beta 1.5 before oct. 12th.
go to this site and download nightly build joomla
http://dev.joomla.org/content/view/17/60/

I'd installed this to localhost and works perfect.
this nightly build joomla must be real close to joomla beta 1.5

[newart]

excellent news.
if you are impatient and want to try joomla beta 1.5 before oct. 12th.
go to this site and download nightly build joomla
http://dev.joomla.org/content/view/17/60/

I'd installed this to localhost and works perfect.
this nightly build joomla must be real close to joomla beta 1.5

I've already tested the nightly build versions. I think the beta will be a slightly more different than alpha. I need beta, moreover, as it is an un-changeable system. So all of us can work on it

[batman1056]

Not sure if this is in the right place - looking forward to the new release -
Will the current templates work on the new version and if not will they be following the same type of design (1 page theme)

[leolam]

Not sure if this is in the right place - looking forward to the new release -
Will the current templates work on the new version and if not will they be following the same type of design (1 page theme)

no this is not the right place see here http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/board,304.0.html

the answer is yes you can use the cuirrent template see all template related posts on this particluar forum or check the template forumas well.

cheers
Leo

[newart]

my 5cts idea 

if in the rush day we should have a great number of download... how about a guinness record for high downlads in an open source project cms? 

[Daniel Tulp]

my 5cts idea 

if in the rush day we should have a great number of download... how about a guinness record for high downlads in an open source project cms? 

sounds like a great idea, there isn't one, so we'll probably get it

Who's going to apply?

[webapache]

great job! congrats and thanks to the team! 

[eerised]

L.s.,

So tonight 0.00h? Party?

[tj.baker]

Ummmmm...... that's 12.00 in what time zone? 

I want it NOW........ 

tj

[eerised]

Ummmmm...... that's 12.00 in what time zone? 

I want it NOW........ 

tj

You are right, here in the Netherlands it is 6 hours later, so believe me I am waiting now for the last hour to get it 06.00h in de morning here, 0.00h for the official release time-zone...

But I downed the Nightly version, a daily changed version and it looks real great. Good work.

Found a bug and logging in to report it

Countdown...55 minutes...

[Dangerous Boy]

it's 12:07am of Oct 12 2006  no 1.5.0 yet! my impatience is killing mee!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[tj.baker]

I feel like I did waiting in line for Halo 2....... I sure hope this turns out better than that did 

....actually, I'm sure it will.........

tj