My resignation letter from JED

Here you can contact the editors of our Extensions site, as well as access infomation relating to this site.

Moderators: tydust, LorenzoG, timothy.stiffler

Forum rules
Forum Rules
READ ME <-- please read before posting, this means YOU.
Post Reply
User avatar
Vimes
Joomla! Engineer
Joomla! Engineer
Posts: 356
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:14 am
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

My resignation letter from JED

Post by Vimes » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:58 pm

http://www.jomres.net/index.php?option= ... Itemid=186

It is with great regret that I announce my resignation from the Joomla Extensions Directory team, and the Joomla project.

Whilst I will always hold a fond place in my heart for the Joomla project and the many wonderful people in it, I find that I can no longer ally myself with the project as a whole and the direction it is currently taking.

I also find myself at odds with a core team that is under the impression that commercial developers do nothing for the Joomla Community. This is at odds with my own experience of commercial developers who put themselves out time and time again for Joomla users and I find myself so deeply offended that even if it were not for other factors I would still resign over this issue.

As such, it would be hypocritical for me to remain on one of Joomla's teams. This is despite the wonderful time I have had working with Ot2sen, Lorenzo and Lee, who are all great people, full of integrity, and who I have been proud to call colleagues.

Therefore, I wish you all the best for the future, and I look forward to meeting you all in other, different circumstances.

Vimes (Vince Wooll)
http://www.jomres.net A bookings comp for hotels
http://jcd-a.org J'nt Com' Dev's As'n
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, yellng GERONIMO

User avatar
Websmurf
Joomla! Intern
Joomla! Intern
Posts: 92
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:23 pm
Location: The Netherlands
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by Websmurf » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:05 pm

sorry to hear that Vince, but very, very understandable
Adam van Dongen - Developer

- Blocklist, ODT Indexer, EasyFAQ, Easy Guestbook, Easy Gallery, YaNC & Redirect -
http://www.joomla-addons.org - http://www.bandhosting.nl

User avatar
manuman
Joomla! Enthusiast
Joomla! Enthusiast
Posts: 211
Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:58 am
Location: Albany - Western Australia
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by manuman » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:18 pm

I admit I never crossed paths with you, but I was involved in the the original setup of JED so to see where you and the others have taken it is quite astounding.

Its a shame that the current circumstances have been the catalyst for your moving on, but I do understand and do admire the the fact that you to are standing for what you believe in, even if it is at odds to my own belief's.

Best of luck
Shayne
Core Team Member :: Project Manager & Foundation WG Coordinator
OSM Board Member :: Treasurer
Vote for Joomla! http://www.packtpub.com/nominations-homepage

User avatar
fotisevangelou
Joomla! Apprentice
Joomla! Apprentice
Posts: 15
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:27 pm
Location: Athens, Greece
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by fotisevangelou » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:48 pm

Very understandable indeed...
JoomlaWorks - The Joomla! Professionals
Developers of Frontpage Slideshow, AllVideos, Simple Image Gallery, Tabs & Slides and many more!
http://www.joomlaworks.gr (Projects/Downloads/Demos) - forum.joomlaworks.gr (Support Forum)

User avatar
Tonie
Joomla! Ace
Joomla! Ace
Posts: 1585
Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:13 am
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by Tonie » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:12 pm

Good luck to you, Vince. Thanks for all your dedicated work on the Extensions Directory, keeping good humor and being around. Your presence will be missed by the team. All the best to you.
Antonie de Wilde - Forum admin

User avatar
RobInk
Joomla! Guru
Joomla! Guru
Posts: 517
Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:41 am
Location: The Netherlands

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by RobInk » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:32 pm

Hi Vince,

Like Shayne already stated, I've not crossed paths with you either, but a big thanks for all the work you have done on the JED! Good luck with your future ventures.
Regards Robin - Sites & Infrastructure

User avatar
aravot
Joomla! Apprentice
Joomla! Apprentice
Posts: 47
Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:16 am
Location: Glendale, CA, USA
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by aravot » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:12 pm

Vimes wrote:It is with great regret that I announce my resignation from the Joomla Extensions Directory team, and the Joomla project.


Does this mean you'll stop development of your extensions for Joomla?
Do you want to see VirtueMart 1.1 stable?
Try nightly build http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=31381.0
and give your feedback http://forum.virtuemart.net/http://phpbb.joomla.org//viewforum.php?f=1.0

User avatar
Vimes
Joomla! Engineer
Joomla! Engineer
Posts: 356
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:14 am
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by Vimes » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:14 pm

A decision on that is pending.
http://www.jomres.net A bookings comp for hotels
http://jcd-a.org J'nt Com' Dev's As'n
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, yellng GERONIMO

slinky
Joomla! Fledgling
Joomla! Fledgling
Posts: 2
Joined: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:43 pm
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by slinky » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:11 am

Vimes wrote:http://www.jomres.net/index.php?option= ... Itemid=186
I also find myself at odds with a core team that is under the impression that commercial developers do nothing for the Joomla Community. This is at odds with my own experience of commercial developers who put themselves out time and time again for Joomla users and I find myself so deeply offended that even if it were not for other factors I would still resign over this issue.

As such, it would be hypocritical for me to remain on one of Joomla's teams. This is despite the wonderful time I have had working with Ot2sen, Lorenzo and Lee, who are all great people, full of integrity, and who I have been proud to call colleagues.
Vimes (Vince Wooll)

Vince - it is with great regret that I am making new friends with great, dedicated people like you who realize the truth of what makes the world go round. It is not just goodwill and love. It is the ability for the wonderful people who have come here and asked for some compensation to put food on the table in return for some of the best commercial extensions the open source community has ever seen.

The beauty of Joomla was that it was FREEDOM in practice - it allowed the developers the ability to provide licenses to a great free, open source base product in any manner they desired. The community could choose whether to accept the licenses or reject them and create substitute products with a different model. The bottom line -- it was freedom of choice for everyone.

When people like you who have donated significant time to run one of the best organized downloads directories ever seen begin to resign, it should make people start thinking about what could turn away such honorable people. It is with great hope that your resignation might only be a temporary display of honor and standing up for what you believe is right - and that Joomla will return to what it used to be -- where freedom reigned supreme and we were not shackled by forced idealism.

I remain optimistic and in your debt for your significant contributions here. A hearty thank you.
http://www.thelaw.com - Free Legal Advice Resource
http://www.jnation.com - Free Jewish Dating & Social Networking

User avatar
guilliam
Joomla! Enthusiast
Joomla! Enthusiast
Posts: 159
Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:27 am
Location: Sunny City Cebu, Philippines!
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by guilliam » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:08 am

hello vince,

its very sad to hear that mate.
i wish you all the best on your undertakings.

- g
"I was one of those who wondered why people would pay so much $$$$ to do something that was so much fun!" -R. Harkrider, Fortran Code Engr.
^If u read that in $GREEN, you clearly missed the HIGHLIGHTS!
http://www.joomlancers.com | http://www.joomlaconsultancy.net

User avatar
ChiefGoFor
Joomla! Engineer
Joomla! Engineer
Posts: 282
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:22 am
Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by ChiefGoFor » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:52 pm

Thank you for your hard work and dedication.
Kenneth Crowder - Omaha, Nebraska, USA
Joomla! ...because open source matters

User avatar
pe7er
Joomla! Enthusiast
Joomla! Enthusiast
Posts: 162
Joined: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:55 pm
Location: Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by pe7er » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:10 pm

Sorry to hear that!  Thank you for all the work you did in the community!
I hope that in the future you might reconsider your resignation...
Kind Regards,
Peter Martin (aka pe7er)
db8.nl - Joomla! implementation, programming, template and component development [Dutch]
>> Questions? Get help more easily with JTS-post Assistant: viewtopic.php?f=428&t=272481

User avatar
MMMedia
Joomla! Enthusiast
Joomla! Enthusiast
Posts: 233
Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:25 pm
Location: Somewhere Near Here

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by MMMedia » Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:30 am

Take care Vince, you will be very, very missed.  Thank you for all the hard work you have done.
Be kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.
http://www.oddsheepout.com http://www.jennifermarriott.com
JOOMLA ROCKS
Women JOOMLA! Too

User avatar
researchtoxic
Joomla! Apprentice
Joomla! Apprentice
Posts: 8
Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:52 pm
Location: Macon, GA
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by researchtoxic » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:50 am

You were one of the first people to help me out on the forums forever ago.

I am still reading up on the the decisions about liscensing. I wish you the best.

n0fear2
Joomla! Fledgling
Joomla! Fledgling
Posts: 1
Joined: Tue May 23, 2006 3:33 pm

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by n0fear2 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:22 pm

Not nice to hear vince! Good luck and thanks for everything you did for joomla!
I am sure more will leave, and even if i get banned now: "I hope it will happen!" and yes i am really p... o.. because, of this "great" pgl *%&$ we will have to close our site because there are no alternatives to the software we use but developers stopped developing and we can not even get a new serial number after we changed domain-name now. Joomla is only as strong as the components!  What you guys do now, is "fighting" against the endusers!

User avatar
brad
Joomla! Hero
Joomla! Hero
Posts: 2212
Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:38 am
Skype: tested
Location: Sydney - Australia
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by brad » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:56 pm

Why would you get banned for not using Joomla?
Brad Baker - Joomla! Core Team, Sites & Infrastructure.
http://www.rochen.com - Managed Dedicated, Reseller & Multiple Domain Hosting.
http://www.joomlatutorials.com <-- Joomla! 1.5 & 1.0.x
^New Joomla 1.5 Tutorials are out!

dcsweb
Joomla! Apprentice
Joomla! Apprentice
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:52 pm
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by dcsweb » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:12 pm

@n0fear2

close our site because there are no alternatives to the software we use but developers stopped developing and we can not even get a new serial number


I'm sorry to hear that. Yes this issue is very heated and we too are affected by that. There are threads going right now that tell both sides of this story.
Let's see if there is something that can be done to help. Feel free to PM me if you'd like to see if I can help you find a solution. I know I've lost sleep over this.
We're obviously OT on this, so let's try this thread:
http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,183271.0.html
eKith Arcade brings high-score flash games to your website!
visit us at http://eKith.com :)

User avatar
LorenzoG
Member of the Month!
Member of the Month!
Posts: 879
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:46 am
Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Re: My resignation letter from JED

Post by LorenzoG » Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:45 am

dcsweb wrote:We're obviously OT on this, so let's try this thread:

I agree with dscweb, this is OT and we haven't got any report that a commercial dev has closed their business because of GPL controversy. You can find other threads to discuss the GPL issue. Lets show Vince respect for his great work and dedication he has showed the community and keep this thread on topic. Thanks.
Joomla! Extensions Directory - http://extensions.joomla.org

Håll utkik efter svenska joomlaföreningen som håller på att bildas.


Post Reply