Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

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Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by RobS » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:00 pm

In reference to: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,205476.0.html

Please discuss here.

Thank you!

[EDIT MOD: Post your submissions here:
http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/board,479.0.html]
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by damo » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:11 pm

even money rhuk wins ...

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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by RobS » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:19 pm

damo wrote:even money rhuk wins ...


If Andy wanted to distribute another template in the core, he doesn't need a contest to do it.  Further, he is not going to submit an entry because it would be a conflict of interest seeing as he is on the Core Team and the Core Team is going to pick the five finalist.  This is about giving other designers the opportunity to have their work shown off to the world, demonstrating the power of Joomla!, and having a bit of fun for everyone involved.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by RobS » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:54 pm

To make it crystal clear, I am going to make a small addition to the rules:

Core Team members may not submit entries in the template contest.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by ibnhafsun » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:16 pm

To make it even more crystal clear, what does mean XHTML valid? Strict? Transitional? Frameset?

And CSS valid? 1? 2? 2.1? 3?

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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by walb » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:22 pm

I don't want to be rude, but the current svn template uistaller does not support this condition
  • Templates must utilize at least one Joomla! 1.5 template parameter.
For that it needs to load an ini file to set and fiddle parameters
See also
http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... html 

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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by RobS » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:30 pm

ibnhafsun wrote:To make it even more crystal clear, what does mean XHTML valid? Strict? Transitional? Frameset?

And CSS valid? 1? 2? 2.1? 3?


Well, considering that this is going to come down to a vote by forum members, I would recommend using the standards that other people use and work in the common browsers.  If the template doesn't work because you are using CSS 3, then people aren't going to vote for you.

XHTML 1.0 is the requirement.  If you want to use strict, you may.  If you want to use transitional, you may.  If you want to use frameset, good luck.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by Aristocrat » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:31 pm

Hi,

I have echoed the news on our community site: http://forum.tazzu.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1455

and one of our members is asking whether multiple people could collaborate to submit a template?

:)
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by Aristocrat » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:32 pm

RobS wrote:To make it crystal clear, I am going to make a small addition to the rules:

Core Team members may not submit entries in the template contest.



and DWG members too? I don't think I'll be submitting, but just curious!
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by RobS » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:34 pm

walb wrote:I don't want to be rude, but the current svn template uistaller does not support this condition
  • Templates must utilize at least one Joomla! 1.5 template parameter.
For that it needs to load an ini file to set and fiddle parameters
See also
http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... html 


Walb, that thread and the one referenced inside it both refer to language files.  That is not the same as a template parameter.  To my knowledge, the template parameter system is working.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by damo » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:34 pm

RobS wrote:
damo wrote:even money rhuk wins ...


If Andy wanted to distribute another template in the core, he doesn't need a contest to do it.  Further, he is not going to submit an entry because it would be a conflict of interest seeing as he is on the Core Team and the Core Team is going to pick the five finalist.  This is about giving other designers the opportunity to have their work shown off to the world, demonstrating the power of Joomla!, and having a bit of fun for everyone involved.


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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by Pentacle » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:39 pm

And it means 1.5 stable will be definitely released after October 13th 2007?
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by walb » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:42 pm

RobS wrote:

Walb, that thread and the one referenced inside it both refer to language files.  That is not the same as a template parameter.  To my knowledge, the template parameter system is working.

I agree but it cannot be localized like milkyway or beez.
Don't expect localisation. Maybe that should be excluded in the condition ;)

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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by vistartony » Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:38 am

ibnhafsun wrote:To make it even more crystal clear, what does mean XHTML valid? Strict? Transitional? Frameset?

And CSS valid? 1? 2? 2.1? 3?

;)

The best combination is for sure "XHTML Transitional 1.0"  and "CSS 2 Valid"

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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by RobInk » Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:37 am

Pentacle wrote:And it means 1.5 stable will be definitely released after October 13th 2007?


I / Q&T can not promise or set a date for the stable release. We are working hard on the RC2 at the moment. It might even be better to hve the template in and ready before the final is released, to give the template a last check too  ;)


About the contest; I wish all the designers good luck and I hope they have some nice ideas and lots of inspiration !
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by newart » Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:06 pm

Good idea! We hope to see a lot of state-of-the-art templates. Only a question:

Entries are submitted by way of a post titled "Template Contest Entries"... but where? Which Forum or dedicated sub-forum? In the article there is no link to any forum.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by infograf768 » Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:13 pm

RobS wrote:
walb wrote:I don't want to be rude, but the current svn template uistaller does not support this condition
  • Templates must utilize at least one Joomla! 1.5 template parameter.
For that it needs to load an ini file to set and fiddle parameters
See also
http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic ... html 


Walb, that thread and the one referenced inside it both refer to language files.  That is not the same as a template parameter.  To my knowledge, the template parameter system is working.

Robs, I have posted  that elsewhere.
I will be redundant here:
The first purpose of 1.1 which became 1.5 WAS to permit all languages to make their way easily into ALL aspects of the new Joomla version.
Including ini files in template installer is a MINIMUM condition to fill this goal IMO.

And it should be an en-GB ini file as this is the reference used by Igevans Translator component which all Joomla users may get easily.

This is not a rant, but... it could become one easily.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by infograf768 » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:31 pm

Posted in tracker.
http://joomlacode.org/gf/project/joomla ... em_id=6703
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by Rapunzl » Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:58 pm

The best combination is for sure "XHTML Transitional 1.0"  and "CSS 2 Valid"


Actually, I would like to see someone tackle Strict. It's a lot easier to switch a template to Transitional, and there are very few XHTML Strict templates available. The same goes for CSS 3; I would like to attempt an XHTML 1.1 site with CSS 3 without having to break the code. A good template would be a good start.

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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by vamba » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:14 pm

I think important it is not win, but participate to have much more ready to use templates choises
when Joomla 1.5 will comming.
Hurry up ... i'll go to work for mine.  ;)

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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by RobS » Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:55 am

Aristocrat wrote:and DWG members too? I don't think I'll be submitting, but just curious!


I see no reason to exclude Development Working Group members or any Working Group Members for that matter.  Core Team is excluded because it is a conflict of interest for us to submit entries and be reasonable for selecting the final five.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by newart » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:45 am

I hope this idea is open to template club developpers too. In that way I think there'll be more templates for us... :)
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Post by brad » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:37 pm

newart wrote:I hope this idea is open to template club developpers too. In that way I think there'll be more templates for us... :)

Please read the rules here: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,205929.0.html
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by MuffinDCC » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:13 pm

Should be interesting to see some contestants, I sense some cool designs :)

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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by Mohammed » Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:29 am

Hey guys ,

Please post something about Right To Left support for the contesting templates .
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by compass » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:54 pm

This is great, it will also means that 1.5 will have a whole bunch of great templates to go with it (assuming all entries are released)
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by infograf768 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:12 pm

compass wrote:This is great, it will also means that 1.5 will have a whole bunch of great templates to go with it (assuming all entries are released)


You assume right.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by RobS » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:06 pm

I committed a fix to the template language file issue in SVN revision 8587.  It will be fixed for Joomla! 1.5 RC2.  Please test the fix to confirm that it works correctly.  Also remember that language file parameters need to go into the administrator language directory because they are used in the back-end so the element need to go in the element.

See: http://forum.joomla.org/index.php/topic,191592.0.html for more information.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by zammbi » Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:56 am

Thinking I might submit a template, but I have a few questions.
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Re: Discuss: Joomla! 1.5 Template Contest

Post by manuman » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:27 pm

@ Zammbi

Yes thats fine.
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