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Is the new beta test's button a callback function?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:49 pm
by brian
Great work on the release. A live demo CD including the beta2 will be available shortly
I'm a bit confused at the beta tester images. Why are they available in this way as opposed to the more normal method used for things like the shop images. Is it so that the IP address and website of everyone displaying the image can be logged? I cant think of any other reason to do it this way?
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:52 pm
by Tonie
You got it Brian, always handy to have all those IP addresses ready for using and abusing.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:55 pm
by brian
Which is why something like this is absolutely abhorrant. please reconsider this insane decission
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:56 pm
by Tonie
Maybe I should have added this smily, cause I don't have a clue what your talking about
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:07 pm
by brian
Tonie wrote:Maybe I should have added this smily, cause I don't have a clue what your talking about
It's quite simple. By recommending that people display this image using this code joomla can harvest the information. firstly Joomla could use the information to say that X people have beta tested the software. secondly joomla could use the information to say you have no right to comment as you havent participated in beta testing. thirdly as vimes pointed out elsewhere if you use the code supplied it will break yiur site if either of the dev or joomlacode servers are offline or slow. fourthly it is akin to callback code in software and is abhorant. many an open source project has fied as a result of callback code. (note I use the word could not would)
Please reconsider this recomendation and adopt the words used at
http://shop.joomla.org/index.php?option ... &Itemid=33 instead which are far more appropriate and sensible on all levels
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:15 pm
by Tonie
I thank you for your concern Brian, I would have sincerely appreciated it if you would have opened a thread in the Sites and Infrastructure forum about this, instead of hijacking the announcement. I fail to see what led to the fact that your first reaction is that the S&I team is using this for callback methods and other nasty bahaviour.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:17 pm
by brian
Its experience of other open source projects that have listened to Marketing droids and then seen the consequences. I posted imeediately in the hope that it would be corrected before too many people saw it
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:39 pm
by Tonie
Too late for that now. I'm going to clean this, and move it to the place where it belongs, the S&I feedback forum, and deal with it when we have got the time.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:41 pm
by brian
Tonie wrote:Too late for that now. I'm going to clean this, and move it to the place where it belongs, the S&I feedback forum, and deal with it when we have got the time.
Its never too late to correct an error
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:43 pm
by Tonie
I totally agree with that, I have a train to catch in five hours, so for today it is too late.
Re: Is the new beta test's button a callback function?
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:45 am
by eyezberg
Most websites offer copy/paste code to display their banner on your site, which calls an image on their webspace, nothing unusual and it's easy to see in the code too...
As to using that info to say someone can't comment because (s)he is not using it, that's a bit far-fetched, no..? I don't have to display a badge when I'm testing, do I?
Re: Is the new beta test's button a callback function?
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:33 am
by brian
How many open source projects do though?