How many times does a user have to violate the advertising rules to be banned?

[kenmcd]

How many times does a forum user have to violate the advertising rules to get banned?
I would really like a specific answer to this.

There are some users who apparently believe this forum exists for their advertising needs.
And that the forum no-advertising rules do not apply to them.
Or maybe these particular users are simply not capable of understanding these rather simple rules.

Perhaps all forum users could benefit from some clarification.
That way everyone would know what they can get away with.
Given that some users seem advertise all the time, this could be valuable information for marketing all kinds of services related to Joomla.

How many times does a user have to violate the advertising rules to be banned?
3?
5?
10?
20?
30?
What is the breakpoint?
I would really like to know.

That way I can start taking screenshots, start adding them up, and then ask why some users are apparently immune to banning for obvious repeated violations.

How many times does it take?

Myself, I have seen some users violate the advertising rules easily between 10-20 times.
Perhaps even between 20-30 times.
These users are still here.
Why?
Why is this situation going on-and-on-and-on-and-on-and-on?

Are these users "buddies" with someone that precludes the application of the forum rules to these particular users?
Hey if there is a good old boy system is in effect, I will certainly understand why some users seem to have a "get-out-of-banning-free" card.
Cronyism is rampant throughout the world.
Even I could understand if that were happening here.
Please, just say "this user is immune from the rules" and I would understand what you are saying.

Anyone who spends enough time in this forum to get familiar with particular trends, posting patterns, users habits . . . has got to wonder exactly what is going on here.
Watch the forum pretty consistently for 5-6 months and even clueless morons like me can see some patterns.

Maybe I simply don't understand what is and is not advertising.
Posting links to your web site over and over - advertising?
Discussing your commercial components throughout the forum - advertising?
Pitching your buddie's commercial component for him throughout the forum - advertising?
Yes, no?

As I am sometimes slow in "getting it" I would appreciate it if the forum administrators would clarify these issues for me.
While I know there is generally some leeway in the application of all rules, I would also assume there is an upper limit where subjectivity no longer applies.
What is that upper limit?
5 times?
Is 10 times enough to get banned?
Does 20 qualify?
I would think even the dumbest user would get the point after 3-5 warnings.
Please.
What is the final answer?
I just want to know the absolute upper limit.

How many times does a user have to violate the advertising rules to be banned?

[rjs]

Hi Ken,

I really don't think there is a limit on such issues. The forum teams are primarily doing our best to encourage against the practice, while not being overbearing about the rules. The rules are in place as a "guide" to help all of us. But it's simply not a good practice to go around the forums with an iron fist about the rules, hence our concerns for all in the community. These issues are being discussed on a regular basis and time is always needed to ensure that good decisions are made. Many times it's a one-on-one type of scenario as issues arise. You have a legitmate concern and ongoing discussions about commercial advertisement do take place. The topic is something that needs attention as you mention, yet be done and handled in a proper manner and with respect to all parties envolved.

[PhilTaylor-Prazgod]

How many times can an idiot like you get away with stirring trouble in a public forum without getting banned - you are nothing but a trouble maker and a troll - you hate me and I hate you - get over it and start helping people in these forums with REAL solutions to problems and not just LISTS of other peoples solutions

[rjs]

That's enough Phil. Bottom line.

[PhilTaylor-Prazgod]

Then ban me !

I SELL COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS AND I MAKE £10,000 per month from it - GET OVER IT KEN!!

[rjs]

Thread closed. No bickering today gentleman. I haven't had time to finish my coffee.